> It also seems incredibly expensive for a piece of rubber with some fabric 
glued on top. 

Except that is not how it is made. The Fabric is infused into the rubber.  
Not an easy process and certainly not inexpensive.  

Especially so when compared to the cost of leather.  There is so much 
tanned cow skin on the market, I would not be all surprised to learn Brooks 
cost for leather is substantially less than the infused rubber.

As the Cambium saddle cage is a new and apparently more involved design 
than the leather line saddles all indications the Cambium is a deal.

As for riding experience - I actually find I prefer the Cambium on my road 
bike (which I use regularly for 60 mile plus rises) than on my Commuter.  
Suggesting geometry and saddle position play a role in how the saddle is 
experienced.

On Monday, August 11, 2014 3:23:49 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote:
>
> I had the same experience trying out a used Cambium. I rode it for about 
> 20 minutes, which was long enough to determine that it felt like riding on 
> one of those plastic saddles on a BMX bike. I also felt like the rubber 
> could have somehow been designed to be more forgiving - that was my 
> personal hope anyways. 
>
> It also seems incredibly expensive for a piece of rubber with some fabric 
> glued on top. Oh well.
>
> KJ
>
>
>
> On Monday, August 11, 2014 3:43:44 PM UTC-4, David Banzer wrote:
>>
>> My LBS wonderfully let me borrow a Cambium tester saddle and I set out 
>> for a ride from Chicago to Waukegan to meet my girlfriend at a family 
>> event. 
>>
>> I'll start by saying this... I really, really, really wanted to like the 
>> Cambium and already put aside money to buy one. My LBS (Comrade in Chicago) 
>> let me test out a Cambium before I decided. The saddle looks very nice and 
>> gives a more modern look over a classic leather saddle, and it also looked 
>> great on my Redwood with gray shellacked Newbaum's tape.
>> It felt comfortable right away and coupled with the fact that I had 
>> already in my mind decided to buy a new one, pretty much had me sold...
>> Until the ride continued and after mile 20 or so, it was not so 
>> comfortable at all and I kicked myself for not packing my broken-in B17 
>> just in case.
>> The Cambium felt narrow to me and felt too firm. I wish the rubber 
>> could've given more. I'm not too sure if these indeed do "break-in" a bit 
>> like leather, but I figured the saddle already had a buncha use and 
>> should've been broken-in already.
>> All in all, it took me awhile to realize that the Cambium just isn't for 
>> me for long rides. I could see it being fine for an errand bike, but at its 
>> pricepoint, it doesn't make sense to me. Bummer. Guess I'll spend some 
>> money on something else.
>>
>> &...
>> A few miles away from my destination I heard a distinct PING!
>> I knew that sound - broken spoke. Oh well, I'll gingerly get it the last 
>> 5 miles and figure out what to do later.
>> Until a mile later, another distinct PING!
>> Two adjacent driveside spokes broken at the cross point.
>> Time to call for help. Wheel was wobbling and locking up against brake 
>> pads that were already opened up.
>> I examined the wheel and saw what looked like corrosion at the cross 
>> point on most driveside spokes. I was surprised as the spokes were 
>> stainless steel and I'd been riding this self built wheel for close to 5 
>> years without any issue.
>> Question then:
>> Will stainless steel spokes corrode over time? 
>>
>> Wheel obviously needs a complete rebuild. Got me thinking then about a 
>> 7-speed hub spaced at 135mm, which should have close to zero dish. This 
>> should be stronger then a 8/9/10 speed hub spaced at 130mm? The Redwood is 
>> 132.5 which'll take either 130 or 135. I've been using 8-speed 130mm.
>> Any insights?
>>
>> Lastly, shameless plug... 
>> Have several bags (including ones on Redwood) for sale at 
>> treetop.bigcartel.com - contact offlist for a better price than listed 
>> there.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
>

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