Happen to use and like the Nitto quick release.  Not only for
commuting purposes (with a Nelson Longflap), but also for regular
rides where I might pop into a store (with a smaller bag).  Just a lot
easier for me.  Tried for a while to commute without one.  But the
time and frustration factor was too much.

Plus, the Nitto puts the Nelson far enough back to only have a little
bit o' thigh rub for me.

Have also used the Nitto on a Terry saddle.  Makes the saddle even
more useful.

To go back to the original post - have thought of getting a Sackville
large for commuting, but have not because figured it would have to be
strapped down besides using the quick release.  (And the Tubus rack on
the Hillborne prevents use of the front slot designed for a Nitto
rack).

As for the buckles, have decided, at least on my Atlantis with B-67
that they need to be on the outside.  Not because the saddle hangs
lower, but because the entire contraption squeaks with leather rubbing
spring if the buckles are on the inside.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Sep 28, 10:47�am, usuk2007 <clive.stand...@umassmed.edu> wrote:
> To comment on Tim's comments
>
>
>
> > That's a nuisance, especially if you have put the buckles inside the �
> > bag to snug it up against the saddle. �You have to open the bag, move �
> > the contents out of the way, do gymnastics to see or blindly undo the �
> > buckles by feel, drag the slightly oversized straps through the slots �
> > in the saddle, etc., etc. �If you're going to be removing and �
> > installing the bag a few times a day, some sort of QR system is helpful.
>
> The straps are a bit oversized for the holes in the bag at first, but
> they quickly soften up making it simple to get the straps through. For
> me QR mechanisms just add a complication. With a little bit of
> practice and the bag can be opened and the inside buckles undone
> quickly, not as fast as with a QR mechanism, but I don't mind taking
> 20 secs out of my day to do this. My routine is to open the saddlebag,
> take out my lock and lock the bike up, then remove the bag.
>
> Even if you do use a QR mechanism the buckles should still be done up
> on the inside of the bag. I believe that many of the reported issues
> with saddlebag sway are due to improper mounting.
>
> > I don't like the Bagman, the Carradice SQR, etc. �They look like �
> > designs asking to fail at some point due to the long lever with teh �
> > weight of the bag at the far end. �And they just look kludgy to my �
> > eyes.
>
> I agree about the way the QR systems look, but the regular Bagman puts
> the saddelbag very close to the saddle and cannot even be seen when
> the bag is mounted. The lever arm is not large at all. There is a long
> vertical section, but that obviously doesn't contribute to the moment.
> I can see an argument being made about the gauge of the rod used in
> its construction, but it's only supposed to carry 20lbs and I've found
> it to be just right for the Nelson Longflap.
>
> �
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