While I'm not quite lean and racy, I've never been overweight in 57 years - I see friends all around me leaning out to gaunt with new diets while other friends slide into type II diabetes. My sister has become a food nazi and preaches carb evils to anyone who will listen - her residual cravings have not improved her mood or judgment. A 53-y-o gentleman uphill from me died of a heart-attack this weekend - going for a walk. I have a friend from high school I used take hiking and wade-fishing - I don't do it any more because last time I was afraid he was going to pass on my watch. I still vote for all things in moderation and keep getting stronger on your bike. I;m going to eat my kolache now.
On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 11:28:22 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I forgot to add that my mother has controlled type 2 diabetes and heart > disease for 25 years by cutting back on fats and sugars and eating, again, > rice, vegetables, and styrofoam chicken. She didn't get diabetes and heart > disease by eating rice, vegetables, and styrofoam chicken. We buy her long > grain rice in 50 lb bags at Costco. > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Once again, let's not forget that millions, if not billions, of people >> lived and live healthily -- at least, free of diseases endemic to modern >> Western diets -- by eating largely grains, vegetables, and a little fish >> and meat. The Japanese are not known for diabetes, heart disease, obesity, >> or short lives. My mother has lived for 91 years largely on white rice and >> very little fat. >> >> This does not mean that a high fat, high protein diet won't help some >> people, but it does mean that a high fat, high protein diet is not needed >> by everyone. >> >> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Jason Hartman <rjason...@gmail.com >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> No, not at all. The last time it was checked, my good cholesterol was >>> 100 and my bad was 130. I love sardines, and fish in general. I just >>> haven't given up on carbs. >>> Would it make a difference? >>> That is what I want to know. Is this a diet just for people who are >>> overweight? Or with health problems in general? >>> Curious minds and all that. >>> >>> Jay Hartman. >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, November 4, 2014, Deacon Patrick <lamon...@mac.com >>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>> >>>> If "good cholesterol" means "low cholesterol" then you are likely not >>>> improving heart health any and are depriving your brain and neurological >>>> systems of a nutrient they need (cholesterol), leading to higher rates of >>>> altzheimer's, MS, and more. >>>> >>>> With abandon, >>>> Patrick >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 6:59:25 PM UTC-7, jay hartman wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Not to hijack the thread, but is there any reason that a thin healthy >>>>> person with good cholesterol, blood numbers, etc, should even consider >>>>> this >>>>> diet? >>>>> >>>>> Is there any other benefit to be had? >>>>> >>>>> Jay Hartman. >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, November 4, 2014, Corwin <ern...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I've been cutting back on carbs for about four years. I watched the >>>>>> Gary Taubes videos recorded by Grant a couple months after they were >>>>>> posted >>>>>> on Youtube. Still kicking myself for not attending in person. After >>>>>> watching the videos, I decided to read Good Calories, Bad Calories. That >>>>>> book changed my life. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now I understand how I can go for a long run or bike ride, lose five >>>>>> pounds or so (possibly all water) and then gain it all back (and more!) >>>>>> eating the "endurance athelete's" dinner of pasta. I no longer eat >>>>>> pasta. >>>>>> Still eat the sauces (especially pesto!) though. >>>>>> >>>>>> About food for sub24O - I would take some hard cheese, Framani >>>>>> Chorizo and canned oysters. Probably some raw veggies too - like carrots >>>>>> or >>>>>> cherry tomatoes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not sure why Grant does not love kale - perhaps he's never tried this >>>>>> kale salad: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/RCP02206/Tuscan-Kale-Salad.html >>>>>> >>>>>> I adopted the change after watching friends and family suffer from >>>>>> diabetes and related conditions. Never had a big problem keeping the >>>>>> weight >>>>>> off - but it's sure a lot easier now. I guess my only difficulty >>>>>> transitioning was with potassium. I get terrible leg cramps when I don't >>>>>> consume enough potassium. Before going low carb, I used to control this >>>>>> by >>>>>> eating a few bananas each week. After going low carb, nothing seemed to >>>>>> work. Tried V8 juice. Tried potassium supplements. No help. Then I >>>>>> discovered there are 800 mg of potassium in a large russet. Now I eat a >>>>>> large, baked russet (lots of butter) every three weeks or so. No more >>>>>> cramps. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good luck. And let us know how it goes. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Corwin >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, November 2, 2014 12:24:52 PM UTC-8, David Banzer wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> First off, this isn't necessarily Riv-related, or even bike-related >>>>>>> technically, but it is Grant-related. If this falls outside the >>>>>>> parameters >>>>>>> of this list, let me know, and Jim feel free to delete. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've been following Grant's new blog for his new book and am >>>>>>> genuinely interested in the diet/exercise viewpoint that he discusses >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> follows. >>>>>>> I guess my questions are (and answers probably should be offlist I >>>>>>> guess): >>>>>>> Anyone follow a similar diet? >>>>>>> Your general experiences? >>>>>>> Your reasons for adopting this diet, and your experience in the >>>>>>> transition period? >>>>>>> Difficulties? >>>>>>> What would you bring on a lengthy bike ride (bike-related!) or >>>>>>> overnight? >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> David >>>>>>> Chicago >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups. >>>>>> com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >>> <javascript:>. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. >> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. >> Other professional writing services. >> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >> www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten >> >> ************************************* >> *[I]n exploring the physical universe man has made no attempt to explore >> himself. Much of what goes by the name of pleasure is simply an effort to >> destroy consciousness. If one started by asking, what is man? what are his >> needs? how can he best express himself? one would discover that merely >> having the power to avoid work and live one’s life from birth to death in >> electric light and to the tune of tinned music is not a reason for doing >> so.”* >> * >> -- George Orwell, Pleasure Spots* >> >> *Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not >> money, I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I >> have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; >> and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not >> money, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and >> though I give my body to be burned, and have not money, it profiteth me >> nothing. Money suffereth long, and it is kind; money envieth not; money >> vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave unseemly, seeketh >> not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in >> iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; beareth all things, hopeth all >> things, endureth all things. . . . And now abideth faith, hope, money, >> these three; but the greatest of these is money. * >> * >> -- George Orwell, Keep The Apidistra Flying* >> > > > > -- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. > Other professional writing services. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten > > ************************************* > *[I]n exploring the physical universe man has made no attempt to explore > himself. Much of what goes by the name of pleasure is simply an effort to > destroy consciousness. If one started by asking, what is man? what are his > needs? how can he best express himself? one would discover that merely > having the power to avoid work and live one’s life from birth to death in > electric light and to the tune of tinned music is not a reason for doing > so.”* > * > -- George Orwell, Pleasure Spots* > > *Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not money, > I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have > the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and > though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not > money, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and > though I give my body to be burned, and have not money, it profiteth me > nothing. Money suffereth long, and it is kind; money envieth not; money > vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave unseemly, seeketh > not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in > iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; beareth all things, hopeth all > things, endureth all things. . . . And now abideth faith, hope, money, > these three; but the greatest of these is money. * > * > -- George Orwell, Keep The Apidistra Flying* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
