We've been building some tubeless clincher wheelsets using the Pacenti SL23 and 
the Velocity A23 rims and have had great luck with mounting the tires and 
seating them. We do use a compressor, however, and we use the Orange Seal 
tubeless sealant. The best thing about the Orange Seal is that, in general, the 
tires seat and seal on the first try. We've literally gotten them up to 
pressure, spun the wheels a few times to spread the sealant, put the wheel down 
and come back a day later to find them at nearly the same pressure as we've 
left them. With Stan's and Slime tubeless sealants, we've had problems getting 
a good seal at times.

We would not recommend using a non-tubeless tire for a tubeless set up for road 
use.

YMMV,

Joe

Joe Bartoe
Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc.
email: j...@synapticcycles.com
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Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 10:53:53 -0800
From: cyclotour...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Tubeless Rims for Oregon Outback

Yes, compressors are most helpful. Even then it can still be a pain IMHO. I had 
a chance to buy a second wheelset to set up tubeless, but passed on it. 
I've never had a set come off from inactivity. I did have a nasty burp out on 
the trails that sent me down pretty hard, glad to have not broken my scapula in 
the process. That was with running non-tubeless ready tires on Stans rims, 
which I have never done since then!

On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 9:34:17 AM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:On Monday, 
February 9, 2015 at 5:12:46 AM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:They also said that if 
you don't ride them regularly, it's better to use tubes because the tire will 
come off the bead, which relates to needing (again) to have an air compressor 
to seat.



A compressor plus soapy water makes the job pretty easy. As to the tire coming 
off the bead, I've rarely had that happen, even if the wheel sits long enough 
to go flat. Once the bead is set, it tends to stay. If it's a bike you don't 
ride regularly, then pump them up once a month. Heck, I do that even for tubed 
tires that don't get ridden much. As mentioned by others, not all tires will 
work, and not all rims will work, but if you use both tires and rims designed 
for tubeless, it's pretty foolproof. I've only used tubeless rims, but I've 
successfully used several tires tubeless that aren't specified tubeless ready.
jim mwc ca




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