Nope; the Eroicas were a 700c tire, as are the P-Rs. Challenge doesn't make 
559 tires at all; the only mountain tires they make are 29er and 650B 
tubulars.

When the L'Eroica folks in Tuscany terminated their sponsorship deal with 
Challenge and signed a deal with Continental, Challenge renamed their 30mm 
gravel/road tire as Strada Bianca, and did a dual-layer puncture protection 
(PPS) change, heavying the tire up a bit, in an effort to address the 
alleged fragility of the P-R design. The current-gen P-Rs have the same 
dual-PPS layer. I'm not clear whether the change was made in both models at 
the same time, but that seems likely.

As a company, Challenge seems to be aggressively clueless about selling 
tires into the US market. I had my LBS (Missing Link in Berkeley CA) pursue 
them for Eroica/Strada Bianca skinwall tubulars for nearly a year, but they 
kept saying, "oh, *signore*; you can buy them at your local shop" (*we are 
a local shop; how do we buy them*?). Euro-Asia and QBP are distributors, 
but Euro-Asia hasn't updated to list the Strada Bianca (maybe they still 
have Eroicas?), and QBP's catalog lists only a limited range - no skinwalls 
at all. Honestly, who would want to buy spendy fatso road tires except us 
retro-fetishists? Who do they think is buying these things?

Unless you get a buy off CL or eBay, I think the best Challenge bet for a 
US buyer is Wiggle in the UK; they seem to have a fairly complete 
selection, at rather appealing prices. I'll support local merchants when I 
can, but there has to be a limit.

http://www.wiggle.com/cycle/tires/?ea=4294789336

Patrick, if you're using older P-Rs, aren't you getting...(ahem) *adverse 
results* from those goatherds?

Peter Adler
who doesn't have to deal with Mother Nature's wrathful debris, but only the 
city trash of his fellow man in
Berkeley, CA/USA


On Sunday, March 15, 2015 at 12:33:58 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I'll have to look up the Eroicas. Don't suppose they are made in the 559 
> or 571 sizes ....
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 7:12 AM, Ron Mc <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>> Patrick, I found a pair of Eroicas, which have have the same single PPS 
>> as the P-Rs.  I run pressures way down, it doesn't slow them down, and it's 
>> like riding on a cloud.
>>
>  

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