My query about a 559 size was really a forlorn and plaintive wish for such
a thing. But now we hear that Jan/BQ/Compass will make a lightweight 559X32
...!!!!!!!... so that perhaps our sobs were heard.

(When will that tire become available? Will production be ongoing? -- ie,
it won't disappear from the market after six months?) I will stock up!

The P-Rs were absolutely impossible on even nice, smooth, new area pavement
because of their susceptibility to goathead punctures. I applied 20
(twenty, XX) patches in the first week. My 290 gram 650C skinnies are far,
far *far* more goathead resistant.

But Stan's solved the problem and I've  not flatted in 2K miles.
Occasionally I'll hear a soft *shhhhh* or see little wet spots on the
tread, but I've not lost appreciable air. Note that this Stan's is in
tubes; at 50+ psi it seems to work in tubes where, at 20 psi or less it
doesn't.

On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Peter Adler <[email protected]> wrote:

> Nope; the Eroicas were a 700c tire, as are the P-Rs. Challenge doesn't
> make 559 tires at all; the only mountain tires they make are 29er and 650B
> tubulars.
>
> When the L'Eroica folks in Tuscany terminated their sponsorship deal with
> Challenge and signed a deal with Continental, Challenge renamed their 30mm
> gravel/road tire as Strada Bianca, and did a dual-layer puncture protection
> (PPS) change, heavying the tire up a bit, in an effort to address the
> alleged fragility of the P-R design. The current-gen P-Rs have the same
> dual-PPS layer. I'm not clear whether the change was made in both models at
> the same time, but that seems likely.
>
> As a company, Challenge seems to be aggressively clueless about selling
> tires into the US market. I had my LBS (Missing Link in Berkeley CA) pursue
> them for Eroica/Strada Bianca skinwall tubulars for nearly a year, but they
> kept saying, "oh, *signore*; you can buy them at your local shop" (*we
> are a local shop; how do we buy them*?). Euro-Asia and QBP are
> distributors, but Euro-Asia hasn't updated to list the Strada Bianca (maybe
> they still have Eroicas?), and QBP's catalog lists only a limited range -
> no skinwalls at all. Honestly, who would want to buy spendy fatso road
> tires except us retro-fetishists? Who do they think is buying these things?
>
> Unless you get a buy off CL or eBay, I think the best Challenge bet for a
> US buyer is Wiggle in the UK; they seem to have a fairly complete
> selection, at rather appealing prices. I'll support local merchants when I
> can, but there has to be a limit.
>
> http://www.wiggle.com/cycle/tires/?ea=4294789336
>
> Patrick, if you're using older P-Rs, aren't you getting...(ahem) *adverse
> results* from those goatherds?
>
> Peter Adler
> who doesn't have to deal with Mother Nature's wrathful debris, but only
> the city trash of his fellow man in
> Berkeley, CA/USA
>
>
> On Sunday, March 15, 2015 at 12:33:58 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I'll have to look up the Eroicas. Don't suppose they are made in the 559
>> or 571 sizes ....
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 7:12 AM, Ron Mc <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick, I found a pair of Eroicas, which have have the same single PPS
>>> as the P-Rs.  I run pressures way down, it doesn't slow them down, and it's
>>> like riding on a cloud.
>>>
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