Tom and James,  I remember I even called Surly to confirm it was not a typo 
as it did not make any sense , they said to just use a higher angle stem or 
an additional riser .   Well, I thought, that's nobody I want to do 
business with .  It kinda negates some of the benefit of the threadless 
concept . 

I reminds me how the mainstream bike biz has not changed it's ideas of fit, 
it reminds me of the 70's , lol. 

Come to think of , has anyone seen a large production bike(other than Riv) 
of any kind with a tall steering tube with lots of spacers or really high 
front end  ?   I've looked through endless google photos and have not found 
one !  


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