Anne,

I skipped the Ortlieb inserts and went to a hardware store and bought some 
clear tubing of the proper diameter for my rack.  This stuff is similar to 
surgical tubing; soft and pliable.  I cut four pieces the appropriate 
length to fit between the cross members of the rack where the pannier will 
attach.  This keeps the tubing from slipping sideways.  I split the tubing 
along the bottom, fit it onto the rack and zip tied it in place.  This has 
worked great fo me but your results may vary.  

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 6:59:30 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
>
> My next problem is how to stop the Ortliebs from being so rattly on 
> the rack. Those stupid little inserts fall out or break, and then the 
> pannier is noisy in off-road touring. 
>
> -- 
> -- Anne Paulson 
>
> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. 
>

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