I ride my B17 special very nose-up. People often say OUCH that looks 
painful! They just don't understand... My C17 is pretty much dead flat. I 
agree that they don't feel the same. They are both wide and flat, but the 
B17 special has a lot more give, and that hammock feel. The C17 is not a 
hammock. but it IS quite forgiving and comfortable. I use the B17 on my 
Atlantis for long rides. The C17 is on my single speed CX bike which I use 
for ripping around fast and light, riding in the rain, etc. The C17 is also 
a great mountain biking saddle. 

On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 11:28:56 AM UTC-5, Justin August wrote:
>
> After putting in some miles on the C17S I decided to switch back to my 
> B17. I think they feel pretty different - the C17 was nowhere near the 
> broken in feel of my B17. I _want_ to have a a more weather-proofed saddle 
> and may go down the WTB SSTx rabbit hole soon. However for me the solution 
> wasn't the C17. It felt too harsh and had no give.
>
> Perhaps adjust your B17 to be more flat when you go on the trail and see 
> how that works? Maybe tension out the bolt a bit as well?
>
> -J
>
> On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 9:20:34 AM UTC-7, jinxed wrote:
>>
>> No, if anything it's the opposite. It doesn't seem to matter if I 
>> re-tension, adjust height or fore/aft positioning either. Again, it's not a 
>> problem unless I'm riding in the dirt with some technical terrain. The B17 
>> is the only saddle I've used that required a nose up tilt for me to be 
>> comfortable on.
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 5:32:28 AM UTC-6, Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
>>> Do you start to run the B17 more level once it's broken in?  I don't 
>>> ride nose up but have found the C17 feels most comfortable set up just like 
>>> the standard B17.
>>>
>>>

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