Thanks Steve, but it's simply still too hard , regardless .  Sitting 
on the frame covered with leather is not any different than the Brooks .  
The rivets themselves are not the point and I used the term "riding on the 
rivets" as another take on the term which in racing means to ride on the 
nose of the saddle in max effort. The lack of padding and shape of it are 
the only issue.  I do love the look of these and all leather saddles , I 
love the idea of them , the simplicity . It's this way for me with denim 
jeans too , they look fantastic and their simplicity is marveled , they 
just don't feel right at all to me .  

   Fortunately there's lots to choose from :) 



On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 3:31:10 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On 08/18/2015 03:15 PM, Garth wrote:
>
>
>     Like Buck, it has nothing to do with numbness , everything to do with 
> quite simply, *cushioning of the sit bones *of some sort and one's 
> personal experience of what "comfortable" is .  On leather saddles, I 
> literally sit on the rivets . Ouch .  I tried them extensively and ended up 
> even quiting cycling for a while it hurt so much . 
>
>
> Not all leather saddles are constructed the same.  There's not much 
> likelihood you'd be "sitting on the rivets" with one of these:
>
>
>

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