im still not sure what exactly makes this more like a 
hunq/atlantis/bombadil than a sam hillborne. from my novice reading and 
riv's 2011 chart, the geometry is almost the same as a sam (excluding 
longer stays), the prototype looks like a sam and it's replacing the sam in 
the lineup for now. i understand it has canti mounts, but sams have had 
those too. 

when i first heard about it, i was excited about the idea of sam with more 
off road tendencies. i thought it filled a gap in the lineup and would 
appeal to people who wanted something for rougher stuff who would be put 
off by the extreme stoutness of atlanti/hunq/bombadil (and now clem), and 
would appreciate a slightly lighter version.  at the pricepoint, it seems 
like it could compete with the somas and salsas and all those brands. 

i guess im just confused as to why they would market it as a cheaper 
atlantis. it seems like that will only diminish atlantis sales and not add 
anything new to the lineup that isnt covered by a few other bikes already. 

still, i think it is an awesome bike. 


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