I thought about this too, but maybe it has to do with tubing? They created 
a new fork crown, which seems to be made for rougher stuff.

The geometry is different than a Sam. Longer wheelbase - longer CS and more 
fork rake. Lower BB, longer TT. HT and ST seems to be in between the 
Atlantis and Sam.

Seems like a more stretched out and stable bike, and sits between an 
atlantis and hillborne.

On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 12:30:03 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:
>
> im still not sure what exactly makes this more like a 
> hunq/atlantis/bombadil than a sam hillborne. from my novice reading and 
> riv's 2011 chart, the geometry is almost the same as a sam (excluding 
> longer stays), the prototype looks like a sam and it's replacing the sam in 
> the lineup for now. i understand it has canti mounts, but sams have had 
> those too. 
>
> when i first heard about it, i was excited about the idea of sam with more 
> off road tendencies. i thought it filled a gap in the lineup and would 
> appeal to people who wanted something for rougher stuff who would be put 
> off by the extreme stoutness of atlanti/hunq/bombadil (and now clem), and 
> would appreciate a slightly lighter version.  at the pricepoint, it seems 
> like it could compete with the somas and salsas and all those brands. 
>
> i guess im just confused as to why they would market it as a cheaper 
> atlantis. it seems like that will only diminish atlantis sales and not add 
> anything new to the lineup that isnt covered by a few other bikes already. 
>
> still, i think it is an awesome bike. 
>
>
>

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