Generally true, although my buddy's Riv custom sets up really well for fenders, probably because he specified it needed to be built that way. I am jealous of his custom, the fenders look so clean compared to mine.
On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote: > > > On 12/29/2015 12:03 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: >> >> >> Thanks, Steve. I get the theory behind the better, but as I said, I've >> never experienced shifting or rattling caused by the seat stay attachment. >> This includes plastic SKS, old Bluemels, and newer VO metal fenders. Maybe >> I've been lucky, but I'm also not sure how much play can develop at the mid >> point if both the fore (chainstay) and aft (drop-out braze-on) attachment >> points are secure, and the bracket is pinched well. I do understand that the >> other way may offer a cleaner, more integrated look for high end machines, >> and I know what you mean that the situation has improved--my newer model VO >> fenders are easier to set up than the first iterations. (In fact I did find >> one of my bicycles with a similar attachment, though these fenders were OEM. >> My not terribly high end Raleigh Twenty.) And finally, if you are going to >> design a "fancy" constructeur-style attachment for the rear, why not include >> the fork crown eye bolt, which is not to be found on the Clem (which has >> plenty of other braze-ons, so I doubt it is a matter of cutting corners)? >> > > Rivendells are typically not really very well set up for fendering. Not only > is there not a fork crown eye bolt, but all too often the bridges are not > placed equidistant from the wheel centers, making it difficult if not > impossible to achieve a good fender line. I recall as a case in point one > small Atlantis that needed the full length of a wine cork as a spacer > between the edge of the fender and the chainstay bridge. It doesn't cost > any more to put the bridges in the right place than to put them 2-3cm too > far away, so it's clearly not a cost issue, but rather one of not caring. > And after all, no one who cared would even dream of suggesting using zip > ties to mount fenders on a bike costing several thousand dollars. > > But then, think about the climate out where those bikes are designed. I've > never been there, but I've heard many times Walnut Creek is a place where it > rains for a couple of months, and then nary a drop for the rest of the year, > so full-time fenders don't make a compelling case. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ signature goes here -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.