I took a look in my Riv catalogues (I´m happy to have all). The Riv All-Rounder is built with 559 in all sizes, made up to 62 cm (this was the time before custom sizes) in catalogue 3, summer 1997. In catalogue 4, a year later this had changed, bigger than 59 cm were now built with 622 cm. The Atlantis appeared as „our new one“ in catalogue 6, summer 2000 built aroun 559 in sizes 51-53-56 and around 622 in sizes 58-61-64.
So that was the start. Cheers Olof Stroh Uppsala Sweden From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 4:54 AM To: iamkeith; RBW Owners Bunch Subject: Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling That's the earliest catalog I have. Does anyone have some scans of catalogs or frame brochures earlier than #5 (1999)? I think Keith is right. -Norm _____ From: iamkeith <keithhar...@gmail.com> To: RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> Cc: bone1...@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 4:49:17 PM UTC-7, Norman Bone wrote: Thanks Hugh! It looks like 59 was a large as you could go with 26. Catalog says 61, 63 and 65 went to 700c I'm guessing that this particular catalog excerpt was from later in the period of model availability, and reflected a change that occurred at some point. As noted, mine is 60cm and has 26" wheels. And I know of at least one larger than mine (assuming 61cm, picture attached below) that also has 26" wheels. Prior to 1999, it may be that this size still fell below the "cutoff" between 26 and 700c, or it may just be the case that nothing larger was ever ordered/built. I still kind of think that, at first, they were ALL 26" though. Remember that the original reason for using 26" tires was that there were no 700c tires that had enough volume. (Or at least very few.) At some point, that obviously changed. If I'm correct, it looks like the change might have actually happened mid 1999, comparing with Norman's info, and corresponded to a change in builders (Joe Starck, earlier in the year, used 26", and Match, later in the year, used 700c?) Or who knows... maybe there was an option to choose for a short period during the overlap. <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-959jH7PcILI/VsUtE8jblyI/AAAAAAAAARw/weliXUDKx8w/s1600/BigAR.jpg> Bild som tagits bort av avsändaren. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.