Step 1: remove Marathons.

Step 2: Install paper thin and paper light Compass equivalents.

Step 3: Insert 2 to 4 oz, depending on tire volume, of Orange Seal into
your tubes.

Step 3: Rejoice in the benefits and pleasures of both worlds.

Patrick Moore, who repeats *ad nauseam* that he rides lighter-than-Compass
Furious Freds in goathadland thanks to Orange Seal.

Actually, I rode unprotected Big Apples in through goathead patches, and
they *rarely* punctured, and rode pretty well for 900 gram (60 X 622) tires.

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 8:12 AM, John A. Bennett <jabin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've had the same pair(s) of Schwalbe Marathons on my Saluki and Atlantis
> for over 5 years. Never had a flat. Never had a tire fail.
>
> They feel fine over every surface, and I don't live in fear of potholes,
> nails, pointy rocks, broken glass, or switchblades.
>
> To me, *that's* the smoothest ride of all.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 6:52:15 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>
>> From my experience:
>>
>> Solid rubber tire = 0
>> Super cheapo heavy tire (aka stock tires on box-store bikes) = 1
>> Studded, heavy (Nokian W160) = 2
>> Studded, huge (Dillinger 5) = 3
>> Huge (Ground Control 4.6) = 4
>> Armored, heavy (Schwalbe Marathon) = 5
>> Armored (Pasela PT/TG) = 6
>> Stout (Jack Brown, Ruffy Tuffy) = 7
>> Light (Super Moto, ITS MK2) = 8
>> Supple (Thunder Burt, Compass, Grand Bois, Pari-Moto) = 9
>>
>> And I reserve 10 for those hand-sewn 320 tpi tubulars, though I've never
>> ridden them.
>>
>> On this scale, each increment in rating indicates a noticeable difference
>> in ride quality and rolling resistance.  I.e., if I ride a "7" and an "8"
>> back to back, I'll say "nice!".  If I ride a "7" and a "9" back to back,
>> I'll say "wow!".
>>
>> -Tim
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 5:27 PM, ian m <darkg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hopefully not beating a dying horse here, but I am confused by how this
>>> topic is often discussed. With how BQ and Compass/Grand Bois talk about
>>> their tires it seems as though it's a binary opposition, right? Supple
>>> tires vs. non-supple tires, new tire technology vs. old tires, their tires
>>> vs. the rest. But what is even being discussed when we talk about
>>> suppleness? Am I confused in thinking that there has long been differing
>>> levels of casing quality with TPI being a good indicator of suppleness (and
>>> why doesn't Compass advertise the TPI on their tires)?
>>>
>>> It seems to me that it's more of a continuum of supple, from maybe the
>>> steel belted kevlar enforced urban assault Schwalbe to the hand sewn from
>>> the finest silk undies race only FMBs. In that continuum you have your
>>> clincher and your tubular, your wire bead and folding bead, your 120TPI and
>>> your puncture-proof belt. But where in the continuum are they?
>>>
>>> I'm not interested in performance and am a proud unracer. My only Riv
>>> bike is a Clem and I love it. But I know and appreciate quality bicycle
>>> components and, as they say, am too poor to buy cheap things. While the
>>> rising interest in wide tires in the performance bicycling world will mean
>>> more options for us balloon bikers, that also means more companies making
>>> all sorts of unverifiable claims about their tires. I remember when I
>>> switched from Schwalbe Delta Cruisers to Clement 120TPI USH tires on a
>>> previous touring bike. I was not let down. But would I notice the same
>>> change if I went from the light Jack Browns on my SS to Compass tires?  I
>>> would like to upgrade from the bottom of the line wire bead Schwalbe's
>>> currently on my Clem (mostly because they have a wobble in the bead) to a
>>> lighter "all road" 650b. How does one compare the supple-itude?
>>>
>>> - Perpetually Confused by Marketing
>>>
>>>
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