Patrick, they are summer weight...like dress pants. I wore cycling shorts
underneath. Now that Eric mentioned it... We'll see how they hold up for
wear &tear... Jon
On Apr 14, 2016 12:34 PM, "Patrick Moore" <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Jon and Eric: 3 questions:
>
> 1. Does the waistband come up high enough in back to feel secure when you
> are bent over in the hooks? IOW, are they cut like cycling shorts?
>
> 2. Do you have a guess as to how cold a temperature they might suit?
>
> 3. Are they cut loose enough to accommodate a pair of tights underneath,
> supposing you wanted to wear them in cold weather?
>
> I do not like to cover my knees in hot weather, but I wonder if these
> would work for cold weather, temps down to say 15*F but more usually about
> freezing, with appropriate undergarments?
>
> Thanks, Patrick
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado
> <row.n.2nowh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> They fit great, comfortable, I didn't get hot, well made. They don't
>> restrict my pedal motion.  In fact you don't even think about them on the
>> ride...which is good.
>>  The only thing I didn't like is the pocket openings are too small.I
>> don't have large hands and I couldn't get my hands to the bottom of the
>> pocket to get my keys.
>> Otherwise I think they are a great product for the price. I would highly
>> recommend them.
>> Jon
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