And further visual distortion, the Clementine top tube rises again before joining the seat tube (a good structural design element). The tt on this bike here joins at the same level as the bottom of the loop.
On Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 11:28:05 AM UTC-4, Mark in Beacon wrote: > > Having owned several mixtes and a Clementine, and having ridden the bike > you show here at my local shop, I can tell you the Clementine is virtually > the same mounting motion. Visually, the bike you link to has a massive > chaincase and slightly thinner tubes, whereas the Clementine has a small > crankset. The Dutch bike also likely has a seat post in the 60s somewhere > and a giant head tube. All this creates the illusion of a lower step > through. I also wonder what the bb drop is compared to Clems. That said, > there are of course bikes that go lower than the Clementine, though at some > point, especially with larger sizes, it is possible that type of design > could impact handling/performance. > > On Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 9:56:52 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote: >> >> >> >> <https://www.fietsenwinkel.nl/media/catalog/product/cache/0/image/1200x480/ebe36a7e1e40b700a8591953be1db30f/C/F/CF-B13115-B13120_1.jpg> >> Despite not owning a step through bike, I can see what a truly >> practical "step thru" bike means ! The Clementine , Chev, Betty and all >> are not true step thru bikes, the step thru area is not low enough and the >> arc wide enough for your feet . A good step thru area has nice big "swoop" >> ! like this : >> >> >> https://www.fietsenwinkel.nl/media/catalog/product/cache/0/image/1200x480/ebe36a7e1e40b700a8591953be1db30f/C/F/CF-B13115-B13120_1.jpg >> >> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fietsenwinkel.nl%2Fmedia%2Fcatalog%2Fproduct%2Fcache%2F0%2Fimage%2F1200x480%2Febe36a7e1e40b700a8591953be1db30f%2FC%2FF%2FCF-B13115-B13120_1.jpg&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNF147F4t7G9wgr5dWsfvsOZBRH1hA> >> On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 at 8:46:13 PM UTC-4, Cecily Walker wrote: >>> >>> I miss the truly low step-through of my Dutch bike. The step-over on my >>> Betty Foy just isn't low enough for me, so I end up throwing my leg over >>> the saddle to mount. >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 at 1:25:15 PM UTC-7, Daniel D. wrote: >>>> >>>> Sometimes stepping over my top tube feels like a chore. Not very >>>> often, usually at the end of a long ride or just when I'm carrying a lot >>>> of >>>> stuff. When I test rode a clementine after a sam and clem I didn't notice >>>> any greater convenience mounting or dismounting. But it wasn't a long or >>>> heavily laden ride. So looking for thoughts from people that were on the >>>> fence like me kinda intrigued but hesitant and took the plunge. >>>> >>>> After all this time, still debating sam clem clementine.... maybe even >>>> that lone cheviot >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
