this is it from Fuji. I just think Grant could do it better as a frameset with some Riv tweaks:
http://www.fujibikes.com/LifeStyle/ClassicSeries/Touring.aspx On Dec 11, 9:13 am, eflayer <eddie.fla...@att.net> wrote: > show me a fine tigged bike with Riv geo, Riv aesthetics, threaded > fork, tallish headtube, lightweight tubing, cantis, and rack > brazeons...in the $700 price range. oh yeah, i've come to appreciate > a kickstand mounting plate too. > > On Dec 11, 9:06 am, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: > > > > > > Grant is capable of changing though, isn't he. I think you are all > > > correct and he probably won't consider tig. > > > You need to throw father time in the mix. Grant has gone on record > > saying Riv ends when he retires. Grant is in his mid-50s. It seems > > counterintuitive to work a complete reversal of company philosophy for > > its last 10 years of existance. > > > > Really my ideal was to get the lightness, that geo, quill, rear rack > > > brazeons, canti/vbrakes, in a $700-$1000 price > > > point. And I thought off shore and tigged was a good formula. > > > I have yet to see a cogent example of what, other than putting the > > Rivendell name on the downtube, Grant could do in this market that > > many other companies are already doing quite well. > > > On Dec 11, 10:02 am, eflayer <eddie.fla...@att.net> wrote: > > > > Grant is capable of changing though, isn't he. I think you are all > > > correct and he probably won't consider tig. But as I recall he both > > > never used to mention the weight of bikes, framesets and now look at > > > how he is discussing/selling the lightness of Roadeo. I know the > > > Roadeo fits the lugged mission, but here he is drifting toward the > > > lightness factor. Really my ideal was to get the lightness, that geo, > > > quill, rear rack brazeons, canti/vbrakes, in a $700-$1000 price > > > point. And I thought off shore and tigged was a good formula. > > > > I can easily let it go as my Fuji is all of that, but lacks some > > > pinache. > > > > On Dec 11, 7:52 am, "Frederick, Steve" <frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu> > > > wrote: > > > > > Bill Connell wrote, in part: > > > > > ...I applaud Grant's stubborn aesthetic sense; he has a cohesive vision > > > > for the company, and that strong visual identity is a huge asset... > > > > > Yeah, I think they'd stand to lose more than they gain if they wander > > > > too far from that vision. I recall in an early Reader, Grant talked > > > > about how you used to be able to tell a bike's brand by it's Lug > > > > design. That it was a signature of sorts. And how he hoped that in > > > > 100 years, someone could dig a Rivendell out of a trash heap, paint and > > > > decals gone, rusty and filthy and see the lugs and say "wow, this is a > > > > Rivendell!" > > > > > That matters to him and I suspect to most of us, too. > > > > > Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
