Same, the geometry is similar to the Hillborne, but much lighter and 
heat-treated tubing. I was particularly surprised that even the seat 
stay/chain stays joint was lugged as well.  I don't think other Riv's are 
even lugged at that point (at least I know that the Cheviot and Hillborne 
aren't). But it does have a slightly less clearance than the Hillborne or 
AAH - Chainstays are 130, and the fork crown is slightly smaller. But it's 
such a stellar deal, I definitely like it over the Chev and Hillborne (love 
my Hunq the most though).

I assume it's because a lot of people don't really view it as a Rivendell.

On Wednesday, June 22, 2016 at 10:16:20 AM UTC-4, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>
> I have to echo Sean's comment.  Given the relative price break in the Soma 
> for something designed by Riv and with Riv quality ride, I too am puzzled 
> by the lack of sales for this model.  The bike clearly exceeded my 
> expectations!
>
> On Wednesday, June 22, 2016 at 9:57:33 AM UTC-4, se...@austin.utexas.edu 
> wrote:
>>
>> I recently acquired a San Marcos and absolutely love it. It has all the 
>> Riv ride characteristics at a more manageable price point. Got mine through 
>> my local shop directly from SOMA, but I remember at the time they had only 
>> a couple of 51cms left. The size is perfect. I am 5'6" with a pbh of 78cm. 
>> Soma makes a nice quill stem too that can get the bars up real high 
>> (similar neck problems as well). I am running the Soma stem with some 
>> flipped Albas and loading on the front (Carradice Barley and Sackville 
>> trunksack mounted to a Mark's rack) and it handles perfectly fine. 
>> Definitely reminds me of my old 2nd generation Rambouillet as far as ride 
>> quality is concerned. But being designed for 650b tires and allowing for 
>> wider rubber certainly make it a nicer ride. Running Soma new express and 
>> they soak up the Texas chip seal no problem. The newer fork is beautiful 
>> too with a very elegant bend. I can't believe this frame wasn't more of a 
>> top seller for Soma (and Riv). If you can score one from Riv (maybe hidden 
>> in the depths of Riv's stockroom) or a shop (American Cyclery?), by all 
>> means do it.
>>
>> Sean
>> ATX
>>
>>
>>>

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