Yeah, but Apollonia ends up blowing up, and Michael goes bad … real bad.
--Eric N campyonly...@me.com www.CampyOnly.com Campyonlyguy.blogspot.com @Campyonlyguy > On Aug 25, 2016, at 7:03 PM, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote: > > There isn't a thing in the world wrong with 9 speed. You can even customize > it: most of my bikes run 13-30, and all but one of those are Sheldon's > Century Special 12-27s turned into 13-30s by removing the 12, replacing the > 13 with a 1st position 13 and adding a flat 30 behind the 27. I use them > with 24 or 26 / 36 / 46 or 48, giving me a gear range of ~97" high down to > ~22" low, with a 32" low on the middle ring. That might not suit your > gearing needs & preferences, but it sure works for me. > As for shifters, I love bar ends. My first exposure to them, back in 1975, > was just like the moment in Godfather I when Michael Corleone first sees > Appolonia. Love at first shift, and they will have to pry my cold dead hands > off of them. YMMV. > > On 08/25/2016 07:17 PM, Tim Butterfield wrote: >> Steve, >> I heard from Brian, who is doing my build. There is also an issue with the >> narrow 10 speed chain falling between the chainrings. Brian is recommending >> the 3x9 with bar end shifters and I'm going with that. I'll ask about that >> Audax shifter location and see what he says. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Tim >> >> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Tim Butterfield <timbutterfi...@gmail.com >> <mailto:timbutterfi...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Steve, >> That sounds about right. I'm glad there is a fix for it. I'm thinking of >> going with the recommended 3x9 option. As for shifter location, if not down >> tube, I'm not sure I want bar ends. I shouldn't have any knee collisions >> with the Nitto Noodle, but I'm not sure. This "not quite a brifter" option >> looks interesting: http://gevenalle.com/product/audax/ >> <http://gevenalle.com/product/audax/> >> >> Tim >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com >> <mailto:palin...@his.com>> wrote: >> >> On 08/25/2016 06:19 PM, Tim Butterfield wrote: >> Steve, >> >> Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure of the exact wording used to describe >> the problem. Part was related to the Dura Ace 7900 down tube shifter being >> road and the rear derailleur and 10 speed 12-36 cassette being mountain. >> >> In other words, you have a Dyna Sys MTB 10 speed rear derailleur, whose >> cable pull is incompatible with 10 speed Shimano road shifters of every >> kind. Wolf Tooth TanPan will fix that. Or, use a 9 speed Shimano MTB rear >> derailleur, which has compatible cable pull and will handle that 10 speed >> chain perfectly well (lots of my friends are using that setup). >> >> http://www.velocipedesalon.com/forum/f40/what-shimano-rear-mtb-derailleur-use-road-10-speed-shifters-39865.html >> >> <http://www.velocipedesalon.com/forum/f40/what-shimano-rear-mtb-derailleur-use-road-10-speed-shifters-39865.html> >> https://www.reddit.com/r/bikewrench/comments/2f7o7l/will_dura_ace_7900_bar_end_shifters_be_compatible/ >> >> <https://www.reddit.com/r/bikewrench/comments/2f7o7l/will_dura_ace_7900_bar_end_shifters_be_compatible/> >> http://www.bikehugger.com/post/view/roadmtb-10sp-shimano-incompati >> <http://www.bikehugger.com/post/view/roadmtb-10sp-shimano-incompati> >> >> There might have something else about that combination with the Sugino XD2 >> triple crank, maybe related to the 10-speed chain. I forget exactly. There >> was too much to take in and process all at once and my sponge overflowed. :) >> I'll pass the Tanpan idea on to Roman to see if that might help any. >> >> >> If it were me, I'd go with the 8 or 9 speed MTB derailleur. Of course, the >> fact that I have a couple of them in my parts box makes that an easy choice. >> >> Be glad you don't have 11 speed. 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