Hi Tim,
Steve is correct.  This winter I talked a friend of mine into going on a 
week long self supported tour.  He ran out and bought an LHT frame and then 
started buying parts for it.  He ended up with a 10 speed mess.  I run a 
9-speed mountain cassette, rear der, and road bar end shifter.  He was 
trying to do the same, but with 10-speed.  He came to me when it didn't 
work and I was stumped.  He just figured he would be going friction 
shifting from then on.  I dug in and researched the problem.  Shimano 
changed the ratio of cable pull to deraileur movement on their 10-speed 
mountain but left their road alone.  So the way to look at it is Shimano 
8,9,&10 speed road shifters will work with 8 and 9 speed mountain 
deraileurs and 8, 9, and 10 road or mountain cassettes.  My buddy took an 
8-speed derailleur off his old mountain bike and put it on his 10-speed 
system and it worked great.  I am planning on sticking with 9-speed.  It 
all works and you can still buy all the pieces new.  

I have 8-speed silver friction on my AHH.  I like it.  It kind of goes with 
the AHH attitude.

Scott


On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 8:38:33 PM UTC-6, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>
> I've been thinking of getting a Rivendell bicycle for a long time.  I 
> first joined this group to lurk back in 2010 and have been a member and 
> sometimes lurker since then.  But, I had not made the commitment and 
> purchased a Riv.  The closest I came was getting a Velo-Orange Rando.  That 
> was sort of rivish.  
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/timbutterfield/sets/72157624827193423
>
> Being in the suburbs of Chicago near O'Hare airport limited my comfort 
> using it the way it should have been.  That bike was sold before I left 
> Chicago to live full-time in an RV.  Once we decided to settle in 
> Anacortes, WA (still in the RV), I purchased a Specialized AWOL Comp, 
> definitely not rivish.  
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/timbutterfield/sets/72157644371355428
>
> It's a nice bike, but I now want something more rivish, this time, the 
> real thing.  I'm thinking of getting either the Roadeo or the A Homer 
> Hilsen.  I like the idea of the liveliness and sportiness of the Roadeo, 
> but like the bit of extra versatility of the AHH also.  With my weight at 
> 200+ (PBH 33" or 83.8cm, age 51), I'm leaning towards the AHH instead of 
> the Roadeo.  I can start more roadish with the AHH and, as I build my 
> abilities further, expand the bike to fit new and/or different tasks 
> without having to change frames.
>
> So, I'm fairly settled on getting my first Riv, one of the two mentioned. 
>  My pondering now is mostly on how to appoint it.  My Rando was more modern 
> with the 105 setup.  The AWOL was definitely modern with discs and SRAM 
> setup.  But, I'm not tied to that.  Though I haven't used it much, I like 
> the looks of a quill stem, drop bars, and downtube shifters.  It looks 
> clean and simple.  I'm just not sure what it's like to live with.  I expect 
> that, like many things, it is a matter of adapting to it.  But, using DT 
> shifters or bar ends does set a direction as neither would work with an 
> 11-speed I could have instead.  I'm trying to consider the pros and cons of 
> each.
>
> With my AWOL, I leave it locked to the cabana just outside my RV.  Some 
> RVs have sufficient inside storage for a bike.  Mine doesn't.
>
> My questions to the group are these:  As I am not yet doing longer 
> distances, are there still benefits to the more traditional setups?  If I 
> pick either one, what might I later miss the other may have provided?  Are 
> there likely to be any weather related or other wear issues leaving a Riv 
> locked to the RV park cabana like I do my AWOL?  I'm doubtful of that, but 
> don't want to mistreat it either.  Any thing else I should consider?
>
> Thanks for any advice you have.
>
> Tim
>

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