Based on what you will do with it most often, Sam is king.  Throw on some 
Compass Baby Shoe tires and you're off to the races (It'll feel FAST!!).

It can handle those trails and a front-loaded week long trip with aplomb. 
 Having said all that, buy what feels best when you're actually 
riding...you can't really go wrong with either bike.

If you're bummed about color, check with the dealers to see if they have 
any Blue's in stock....or buy a complete and make some changes (or ride it 
for a while and then decide).

On Sunday, November 27, 2016 at 5:40:05 PM UTC-5, Ashwath Akirekadu wrote:
>
> Visited Rivendell HQ earlier this week.  It was really hard to squeeze 
> time for it, but I thought I owed myself a ride on a real Riv before 
> committing to San Marcos project.  It was a lovely experience.  Had planned 
> on spending an hour.   Ended up spending more than 4 hours ;).   I was 
> discussing Sam H vs San M with one of the associates.  At some point Grant 
> yelled from his office "Sam is just better".    Rode 51cm Sam for an hour. 
>  In the end my feeling was that there just can't be a single way Marcos 
> could possibly better.   
>
> I should have purchased a Sam frame and left.  I was curious about the 
> Choco-Moose bar that was on a Jeo.  To try the handlebar I took Joe for a 
> quick ride.  What a mistake :D   Joe was quite different and felt strangely 
> pleasant.  
>
> It was getting late, so I left decision pending.
>
> The color might also have played a role why I didn't decide on Sam then 
> and there.  While I loved Sam, I didn't like the new Orange color.    I 
> like the blue color of Joe.  Looking at Joe's geometry though, 46cm seems 
> to be my size (PBH 81cm) which has 26" wheel.  Aesthetically I don't prefer 
> wheels that small.  
>
> Here's my planned usage for the new bike: Ride to work once a week (46 
> miles roundtrip).  Around the town, farmers market.  Weekend overnight 
> camping rides 4-5 times a year.   Sometime in next 5 years I'm hoping to 
> ride on Dalton Highway for a week to 10 days.
>
> Thoughts on which way I should go?  
> Will 51cm Joe (which works with 650B) be too big for me?
> If I want a blue Sam, how frequently such frames show up on the used 
> market?
>
> Thanks!
>
> PS: my posts making through moderator approval has been a hit or miss. 
>  Really hoping this one gets a pass!
>
>
>

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