I inadvertently proved today that Silver shifters can shift 10 speeds, if
not mountain or Dynasys (I know nothing about those). I replaced the
Bontrager 44/40/26 triple with a Logic on a offset 130 Phil, with 42/28
rings, so I had to change my cassette. For me, this means dumping the cog
box onto the floor and scrambling around to find the right sizes -- the
collection includes Uniglides, 7s, 8s, 9s, and apparently even some 10s. I
found the butt end of a cassette, 3 cogs riveted together on a spider,
21-23-27, which looked just right for the big end, so I put that on. I
wasn't paying attention, so I just shoved the other cogs on with 9 speed
spacers, and was a bit disconcerted to find (a) that the lockring had to be
pushed hard to engage the threads, and (b) that I had to adjust the inner
limit screw. The 9 speed SRAM chain shifted fine.

Then I looked more closely and found that I had a home-brew 10 speed:
13-27. That would have been very good news, except that my hub seems
incompatible with dished big cogs; the inside of the 27 lightly rubbed the
spokes. When I substituted a "flat" big, I could no longer squeeze 10 onto
the freehub body.

But the Silver BESs shifted the 9 speed chain very nicely across all 10 of
the cogs.

Given my experience, I will now simply buy some 10 speed spacers (if I can
find a source that doesn't charge $7 to $18 per) and a new chain, and build
my own 10 speed cassette. I think that the ~2 mm saved by the narrower
spacers will more than make up for the absence of a dished inner cog.

Anyway, an interesting experience -- 10 speeds with 9 speed spacing on a
Shimano freehub.

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Jon BALER <wcp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Shimano 10 speed mountain/dynasys needs more cable pull than traditional
> friction shifters, so you can't use just any shifter.
>
> Microshift is the only compatible bar end shifter that i know of.   There
> are other options for friction shifting for downtube or thumb shifting that
> will work with dynasys.
>
> There is also a modification that I have used to make a 9 speed shifter
> work. Take a dremel to the shifter and increase the lever travel.
>
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