On 12/12/2016 05:45 PM, Ryan Fleming wrote:
very very true...and when you consider that if you commute by bike ...think of busfare and gas you're not spending

Never mind bus fare, think of the $12-15 (at least, that's what it was at least 10 years ago!) daily car parking fee. That adds up fast. I relied on that when I bought a top of the line touring bike for my commuter; I figure I paid for the bike in savings in about a year and a half.



but if it gives you joy every time you look at it and ride it then it's a great investment

No, *and* it gives you joy every time you look at it and ride, so it is doubly a great investment!



On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 3:43:30 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:


    On 12/12/2016 04:29 PM, masmojo wrote:
    > Speaking for myself I find that if I try to satisfy that itch
    for the really expensive thing I want, with something good, but
    not what I want. Inevitably, I am still not satisfied and
    eventually I  will plunk down the money to get what I want!
    Cheaper just to bite the bullet in the first place.
    > Also, if you  really love something, chances are others will
    too, so that thing you bought and used extensively, will retain or
    even appreciate in value while you use it!  $1,600. Appaloosa Vs
    $1,600 trek, in 15 years which do you think is going to be worth
    more!? One guess! 😉
    >

    The way you really win is to stay with it.  Over a 10 or 20 year
    ownership period, the annual cost of a really, really nice bike
    becomes
    reasonable or even downright cheap when compared to the cost of
    constant
    churn, replacing a mid- or low-level bike with another one every
    couple
    of years.



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