Thanks guys! Great to see so many options are still out there. I was 
concerned when Swift and Carsick stopped waxed canvas. I'm betting a canvas 
canoe company has a grasp of the kind of abuse (and a forever warrantee to 
boot) I put these though vs a more randonneuring mindset, which is what the 
other bags look like.

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 11:42:17 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Who makes um and what is your experience with them, especially as it 
> relates to: 
>

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