On 01/01/2017 03:07 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
Not really. My old Lemond Zurich was 853 Reynolds <http://www.torchandfile.com/TUBING_c_49.html>, specifically designed to be tigged. All the aluminum Canondales are tigged. That was even a selling point at one time--no heavy lugs! That said, living in a third-floor walk-up and owning a Clementine, I'm pretty sure the Clems are not 853. I think the OP will probably like the Clem, because it's a likeable bike.

On Sunday, January 1, 2017 at 9:58:59 AM UTC-5, masmojo wrote:

    the Clem is welded which is going to require much thicker tubing
    (at least on the ends).


Isn't that thicker on the ends thing called "butting"? And isn't it a good thing? Butted tubing was used for brazing with lugs, too -- long before TIG welding bicycles was a thing.

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