On a single speed, would a 4mm offset cause a greater tendancy to derail? On my 
my SS set up (vertical drop outs) I used a cassette hub and adjusted the 
spacers on the hub until the chain didn't want to derail itself. It is a 
multispeed chain and there's a Surly tensioner, but even with the tensioner, a 
few mm made a big difference in whether the chain stayed seated. 

IanA/Canada

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