Last Friday I bought a Toyo 63cm. While in the house of Riv, I looked
at a 61cm from Waterford. In addition to the different color, the
Waterford-made AHH has a nicer rear dropout, stamped "Waterford".
Other than that, they are practically identical, this according to
Kevin.

On Jan 11, 10:56 am, "Anthony (57cm AHH)"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Is there any way to tell if my AHH was made at Toyo or Waterford?
>
> I 'heard' if there are only 2 mounts for water bottles, then it is
> Waterford. If there are 3 mounts, the 3rd underneath, it is from
> Toyo...
>
> Is this accurate? Are there any other identifiers?
>
> Many thanks!
>
> On Jan 11, 7:19 am, Grant Petersen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I can see how (I mean, clearly see how) it could sound like we're thru with
> > the AHH, but it's not so. Only the Japanese ones. Toyo has never made them
> > bigger than 58, anyway..and Wford has never made them smaller than 57. But
> > Wford has made many and will continue to (forseeble future, etc), and it
> > would be easy enough to have them make the smaller ones. SO: Sorry 'bout
> > that.
>
> > I agree with Jim.
>
> > Best,
>
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>
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