On 03/12/2017 03:50 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
Actually, "classic" is level top tube. Me, I don't care about classic, or rather, I care about it much less than fit. But Rivs with very visibly sloping tts are not classic designs.


And I take it the 1-2 degree slope to be found on the Rambouillet, Saluki, Atlantis, etc., are not included in the "very visibly sloping" category?

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