I don't take it as shouting. And I'm not intending to start a debate about 
the merits of friction shifting. I just thought its a book that had some 
parallels to Rivendellism. As this author makes the point that in some 
circumstances, the low-tech solution is preferable.

On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 11:30:02 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> This is true. I mean about friction shifting (if "records" don't add aural 
> benefits to their fragility and awkwardness and cost, then IMO they are a 
> silly choice since they don't add the element of human intervention and 
> skill. Read on.). It's precisely the mental and physical engagement, and 
> the consequent habit of skill, that I like about friction shifting. Sure, 
> especially with 10, it's harder, and would slow you down in a race. Even I, 
> at least on bumpy surfaces, sometimes (rarely) under- or over-shift, and 
> have to re-shift or trim (but not often). But I *like* the skill, even if 
> my skill is not in terms of crude output as efficient as electrics. 
>
> Ditto for riding fixed. I suppose if I were consistent (horrible thought), 
> I'd use friction shifting with a minimal number of rear cogs, for the same 
> reason: using mind and body to compensate for lesser means to given ends. 
> But you know what they say about consistency.
>
> I'm not shouting in Jim S's face, just stating my own like. 
>
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Jim S. <ja...@simeri.me <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>> I know it's a cartoon, but what makes it funny is that it's somewhat true.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 9:49:23 AM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
>>>
>>> [image: “The two things that really drew me to vinyl were the expense 
>>> and the inconvenience.”]
>>> “The two things that really drew me to vinyl were the expense and the 
>>> inconvenience.”
>>> http://www.newyorker.com/cartoons/a19180
>>>
>>> Friction shifting and vinyl spinning in Music City,
>>>
>>> Edwin
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 9:29:46 AM UTC-5, Jim S. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have been reading a new book that might be of interest to group 
>>>> members: *The Revenge of Analog *by David Sax. So far, the author has 
>>>> discussed the revival of vinyl records just when it appeared that the MP3 
>>>> had conquered vinyl forever. I think he's going to take it to other areas 
>>>> as well.
>>>>
>>>> I see parallels between a preference for vinyl records and a preference 
>>>> for friction shifting, among other things. (It could be that I just spend 
>>>> too much time thinking about bikes.)
>>>>
>>>>
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