nine years ago my then 13-year old daughter learned how and showed me how
to make a true quill pen from a thick-stemmed feather. Shape the head right
(see fountain pen) and dip it, and it holds it and doesn't leak. I'm sure
you can get goose or tukey feathers online...

On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 9:30 PM, Toshi Takeuchi <tto...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Get the Safari and if you end up using the fountain pen all of the time,
> then consider upgrading in the future.  My favorite blue ink is Waterman
> serenity blue.  My friend's favorite blue ink is Waterman Mysterious
> blue--a bit darker blue--bit of teal hue.  My favorite black ink is  J
> Herbin Perle Noire.  Both inks are available on Amazon and affordable.
>
> Enjoy,
> Toshi
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Toshi: for a ordinary bloke who just wants a pen that feels nice when he
>> writes: is the Lamy 2000 worth the $100 premium over the price of the
>> Safari?
>>
>> Also: what kind of ink do you fountain pen mavens recommend? (Has to be
>> available in your local Office Depot or on Amazon.)
>>
>> History: For 18 months, 6th and 7th forms, I went to St Joseph's, a
>> Jesuit prep in Bangalore, where we copied teachers' dictation into cheap
>> notebooks and regurgitated it on tests. The only writing instrument was the
>> fountain pen, and all the boys used the cheapest ones possible, basically
>> hollow plastic tubes that unscrewed in the middle, with nibs. You unscrewed
>> the tube, filled the big end with a dropper, and screwed it back together,
>> whereupon the ink would leak from nib and body, and you'd wipe your hand on
>> the whitewashed wall or on your trousers. I may have introduced space age
>> American tech with cheap ball point pens. And the priests used 2' long
>> lengths of slender bamboo as persuaders, though I as the sole American got
>> by with frowns and finger waggings.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Toshi Takeuchi <tto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I qualify as a fountain pen geek and agree that the Lamy Safari is a
>>> fine pen. My favorite is the Lamy 2000. It writes as well as any pen can
>>> write, and it's discreet because the nib is hooded so it doesn't attract
>>> attention.
>>>
>>> Japanese make wonderful fountain pens too. Pilot pens are my favorites.
>>> For 10 bucks you get a great pen: the Pilot Kakuno. It's a kid's pen but
>>> writes great. For a similar price the Metropolitan looks great but the ink
>>> dries inside the cap too quickly for my taste.
>>>
>>> TWSBI is a Taiwanese maker with great pens at a great price.  The pens
>>> write as well as any steel nibs write and the ink filling mechanism has a
>>> high end construction. The 580 or 700 would be my choice around 70 bucks.
>>>
>>> Gold nibs are gonna send you over $100 and the aforementioned Lamy 2000
>>> or Pilot Custom Heritage 92 would be my choice.
>>>
>>> Writing is wonderful!
>>>
>>> Toshi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 10:17 AM Grant @ Rivendell <grant6...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm no fountain pen fanatic, but I know two who are, and they're also
>>>> bike and camera people, so I know it must be dangerous. I have a Waterman
>>>> something-or-other that my mother-in-law gave to me several years ago, and
>>>> since then I've bought three Lamy pens, which are cheap enough--$35 to $45,
>>>> depending on plastic or aluminum--to be sold on those. I may be verifiably
>>>> technically wrong on this next point (and maybe somebody's already said
>>>> it-- I don't know if Lamy pens are a big deal here or not, but I read
>>>> Patrick's mention, so jumped in)--yes, but the thing about fountain pens is
>>>> they seem to have a wider range of writable angles than ball-points, and
>>>> write better at low angles than gel pens. For the unimportant record, I
>>>> love all stationery stuffs....and it's been decades since I've bought a pen
>>>> or pencil out of need, but I buy lots of them and use them, because they're
>>>> all so fun, and it's nice to think of businesses dedicated to these
>>>> soon-to-be ancient tools.  I sign about 30 books a month (before they get
>>>> stocked), and I discovered the low-angle abilities of fountain pens that
>>>> way. But then I blow on the ink to make it dry faster. There is that...
>>>>
>>>> Grant "gimme a Lamy & I'm happy" Petersen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 6:21:57 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Addison: speaking of fountain pens. I'm certainly no collector, but I
>>>> like fountain pens because they're the only writing instrument that allows
>>>> me to write clearly (sort of; my handwriting is very bad) without my hand
>>>> cramping, or else, without the point sliding all over the paper. The
>>>> "glide" and the resistance are in just the right mix.
>>>>
>>>> But my experience, except for brief ownership of a Parker 51 which my
>>>> daughter dropped nib first on a tile floor, has been with cheap fountain
>>>> pens.
>>>>
>>>> This is what I have: https://www.amazon.com/L
>>>> amy-Safari-Fountain-Pen-Charcoal/dp/B0002T401Y/ref=zg_bs_108
>>>> 5704_4/160-5052302-7745938?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=G7K
>>>> 36TEM9SN2BXAFK1JN
>>>>
>>>> In my limited experience, this writes very well. But in the cheap
>>>> category (say, under $100,) can I do better? How will a cheap but better
>>>> pen write compared to this? And if I have to pay more than $100 to get
>>>> noticeably superior writing qualities, how much more?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Patrick
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 8:35 PM, Addison Wilhite <addison...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just thought I'd chime in on the book.  I also just picked it up and
>>>> have only just finished the vinyl section.  I'm also an audiophile
>>>> migrating back towards vinyl and really enjoying the tactile experience and
>>>> the different way I listen to music.
>>>>
>>>> I am hoping the book digs deeper into some of the reasons why as humans
>>>> we tend to find these analog experiences more rewarding.  I've also
>>>> recently been bitten by the fountain pen bug which in some ways is more
>>>> dangerous than a bike obsession.  Easy to keep many more pens than find
>>>> space for a bike.  Plus, for $200 you can get a really nice pen.  But I've
>>>> spent much more on both a modern Montblanc and a vintage Waterman flex pen.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway...the book so far is definitely one to check out.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Addison Wilhite, M.A.
>>>>
>>>> Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology
>>>> <http://www.washoeschools.net/aact>
>>>>
>>>> *“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”*
>>>>
>>>> Educator: Professional Portfolio <http://renorambler.wix.com/portfolio>
>>>>
>>>> Blogger: Reno Rambler <http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Glen <gla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 5:51:57 PM UTC-6, Ray Varella wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to add another thought to this discussion, it has to do with
>>>> public radio vs mainstream corporate media.
>>>> snip....
>>>>
>>>> The sterility of a streaming digital service will never rival that sort
>>>> of listening experience.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I encourage you to explore the world of streamed public radio. Whether
>>>> through iTunes, the NPR app or however you can, there is a vast world of
>>>> fantastic commercial free music available today. No it isn't tube amp warm
>>>> but the jazz from your Bay Area or WWOZ is fantastic and the Americana from
>>>> WNCW or WFPK makes my Friday nights and Sunday afternoons.
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