I-phones, e-bikes, o boy! I think any bike designed around a specific motor 
system will indeed become obsolete sooner than later. And so the 
10-year-old bicycle in the back of the garage will have more in common with 
a computer sporting a floppy drive than a vintage Bridgestone XO-2. Though 
given the choice I suppose I would rather see an ebike come into existence 
if it eliminated a car being made. Are the days drawing near when the only 
place to shop for a "pedal-only" bicycle will be Leman's? 
<https://www.lehmans.com/> Maybe they should distribute Clems...

I bike, You bike, 'e bikes, too. You scream, I scream...

On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 2:54:06 PM UTC-4, iamkeith wrote:
>
> I haven't even read the blahg yet but will say that, as a reformed 
> motorhead and perpetual mechanical tinkerer/hobbyist who found cycling as a 
> redemption from more destructive pastimes, I'll admit to being both very 
> intrigued by e-bikes and disgusted at the thought of seeing them on trails 
> and in the wild.  Fortunately, my local land management agencies got 
> proactive about this very early, and banned them from trails (over 99% of 
> the land in the county where I live is state or federally owned). 
>
> That doesn't mean I don't often think about building one out of a cheap 
> and un-used frame, for street riding for fun's sake.  Heck, I even think 
> about getting one of those cheap, loud, chinese gas motor kits.  I think it 
> would be a great way to teach my son some mechanical skills.
>
> Sounds like it's a mute point, but here's why I personally would NEVER 
> consider buying a Rivendell e-bike:  When it comes to spending any 
> significant amount of money, I'm attracted only to things that have long or 
> indefinite lifespans, that won't become obsolete, that are "classic," and 
> that I can see myself wanting to own for the rest of my life.   That is a 
> Rivendell in a nutshell, to me.   
>
> Even if they weren't still in their infancy, I think the necessary 
> electric motor and battery technologies will continue to change and become 
> obsolete.   And besides, what do you do with the battery when it's worn 
> out, even if you can get a replacement? 
>

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