What harm? None. I just don't want to wait. There's the Violet Beauregarde 
in me wanting something, and wanting it now!

The Ram is my only bike right now while we handle some home repairs like 
building a shed so we actually have storage, so I don't want to part with 
it if I don't have to. I'll work with a single mount and see how I like it.

Thanks for the recommendations and counter-arguments. I love getting all 
sides of a debate and finding new resources for biking goods. I'll add 
Touring Store to the spreadsheet.

On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 5:57:32 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> You don't need to worry about P clamps and even a fully stuffed Nelson, 
> and people do loaded tours with P clamps. You can also get *nice* clamps 
> for stays and fork from thetouringstore.com.
>
> But me, I'd get brazeons -- why not? Sure they're permanent, but what harm 
> do they do, except to your wallet?
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Mike K. <mikeh...@gmail.com <javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> Howdy folks,
>> Trying to figure out the best way to get a rear rack on the Ram. It's 
>> blue and only has one set of eyelets on the dropouts, which are currently 
>> occupied by my fenders. I've been nervous to set up a rear rack with 
>> p-clamps because I know, inevitably, I will want to put panniers on it and 
>> I'm nervous about the weight, but realized I don't actually know which is 
>> stronger: connecting to the braze-ons or p-clamps.
>>
>> Primarily I'd use the rack as support for my Carradice Nelson longflap, 
>> but could end up in a position of needing to put a pannier or two on it if 
>> I was commuting in inclement weather or embarking on a weekend tour.
>>
>> There are a few frame builders here in town I know could add new 
>> braze-ons for not too much $, but I don't want to go down that road unless 
>> I have to since it's considerably more permanent of an option.
>>
>> - Mike in ATX
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