yeah, Mark, I think it was your experience that as well as the price for a 
new cassette PW that made me consider  other alternatives. The WI hubs are 
really nice

On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 11:06:37 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> WHITE, do nooooot go with Phil. I had three failed Phil Wood hubs (the 
> newest style) on my Atlantis until I finally switched. I have a Paul hub 
> back there (Industry 9 freehub mechanism) and a White on my other bike. 
> Both have been 100% perfect since I first laced them up. I used to have an 
> older set of Phil road wheels which were perfect for many years. The new 
> stuff just isn't living up to the rep, very sad to see as I love everything 
> else about them. Their finish is second to none. Now I only ride their 
> single speed hubs, just can't trust the freehub mechanism anymore.
>
> I will say this though, their customer service and warranty replacement 
> was perfect. They really did try to keep me on their hubs, kudos for that. 
> On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 11:18:47 AM UTC-5, Philip Williamson wrote:
>>
>> On the other hand... everyone needs another fixie hub, right? 
>>
>> I just bought a used King Classic on ebay for $120 shipped, to match a 
>> front hub I've had in the drawer for a couple of years. I couldn't pull the 
>> trigger on a $450 hub after all. 
>> I'm probably going to build the wheelset with Sun CR-18 rims, since 
>> they're the same internal width as the A23, 10g heavier, but half the cost. 
>>
>> Philip
>> www.biketinker.com
>>
>> On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 6:22:55 PM UTC-7, Clayton.sf wrote:
>>>
>>> Rich, my newer xt rear hub's freehub body seized twice. Original and the 
>>> replacement in less than 2 years. This failure turns the hub into a fixed 
>>> wheel unexpectedly  and depending on when it happens the consequences can 
>>> be  serious. "Toning it down" in regards to this failure mode does not seem 
>>> like a good idea to me. I am not the only one this happened to either. 
>>>
>>> Clayton Scott
>>> SF, CA
>>>
>>

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