As with others, I definitely like discs for muddy riding or lots of stream 
crossings, mostly for avoiding the sandpaper effect with wet, dirty pads 
and the no-brainer braking consistency after the rim gets doused.

Also, as with others, I've found setup to be finicky, pad wear to be meh, 
and it's hard to tell how low the pads are. There's also disc brake rub - 
just noise, not real friction - which provides a pinging soundtrack to your 
ride and tends to come and go, and come and go, and come and go...

Hydraulics are butter, but need to be bled periodically, and, please, just 
replace the innards if you think there's a leak somewhere. I maintain my 
own bikes and am now in the "ride more, wrench less" stage of my life so 
I've moved away from the MTB braking heaven that is hydraulics.

I found discs to be overkill in my road applications. I've heard on a fully 
loaded touring rig it could make a difference, but I don't have first hand 
knowledge.

I like plus sized tires for singletrack while some folks like fatties 
(>3.5" wide), and those tires may not work with a rim brake. I would not be 
surprised, though, if some crazy fool is using a set of 26 x 4.8 Surly 
Lou's with cantis and extra long straddle wires. Bike geeks are awesome.

Finally, since this is a Riv board, a disc option Riv custom 650b with 
Hunq-y lugs that can take a 3" (or even 2.5") wide tire would put my bank 
account and marriage in serious jeopardy.


--Ed C.


On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 8:09:11 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I'm putting this in a new thread, because I have some questions. Note: I'm 
> not disagreeing, I'm asking because I want to know more. 
>
> Clayton said, in the Rivs On Block thread:
>
> *- More margin betw. rim and brake to adjust for rub. Disc brakes usually 
> have much tighter clearances and make it a much more fiddly affair to get 
> rid of rub (applies mostly to hydros)*
> *- Typically lighter weight*
> *[...]*
> *- Pads tend to last longer*
>
> #1: I agree that this is very true for mechanical discs, but for 
> hydraulics? I thought that pads for hydraulics allowed more gap than those 
> for mechanicals, at least once-sided-pull mechanicals. For me, this isn't 
> merely academic; it may influence my choice of mechanicals over hydraulics 
> one day.
>
> #2: Yes, calipers are lighter, but then disc-specific rims can be much 
> lighter than rim brake rims, at least in the wider sizes.
>
> #3: I've read that this is true; I've also read the opposite (recently, in 
> a review of some disc setup -- Bike Radar? Which one is true?
>
> I do know that my Kool Stop salmons seem to last years if not decades.
>
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