For the record, I wasn't being snide or trying to deprecate when I used the word "cruisers" -- I think that the word fits; they're very nice and fun to ride and sporty cruisers. And -- I'm 62 -- in 10 years, heck, I may be saving pennies for a Clem or Joe or similar.
As to Joe's hypothesis: I dunno. I was a late member of the original bobgroup, and an early member of Rivendell, and I recall the print space devoted to what basically was old school steel road bikes and all the cool retro steel/friction/leather/canvas/wool roadie kit; only, more practical than your 1995 Eddy Merckx. And IIRC, they -- Riv Roads, Long Lows, related by marriage Herons -- sold a lot more than All Rounders. Aside: My first customized Road was built around the All Rounder idea -- I asked Grant to make me a XO-1 that was more roady and was better than the XO-1. (He said, "Oh, it'll be better!") So, 54 cm st c-c, 56.5 level tt c-c, 73* parallel, toute Riv 753 except perhaps the fork may have been 531. Tweaked geometry, road tubing, lugs, and fork. Now, with a level top tube, I can very comfortably ride a 60 c-c. I told Grant, "I'll post this to the boblist!!!" He said, "Don't you dare!" But the statute of limitations has run out. A very nice bike, tho' I had to get a custom Salsa upjutter to make it fit; but fit it did. The current '99 and '03, though, are light years and quantum levels and levels of being better than that first 1995 custom, even though that was a huge improvement, for road use, over the '92 XO-1 (I think that the XO-1 was a good idea that hadn't yet come to fruition; fruition was the Atlantis.) On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Chris Birkenmaier <cbirken...@gmail.com> wrote: > I certainly get what you are saying Joe about the "cruisers" versus the > "road" type of bikes. I just would add that my Joe Appaloosa is far > livelier than what most people would put into a cruiser category. Really a > fun ride and it gets up and going quite nicely for me. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
