Thanks, Patrick. The TCO isn't bad and only realized in parking lot turns. 
I hear what you say about fenders allowing the tip of the show to slide 
instead of catching tire. I have an old Bridgestone setup like that and 
your comment jogged my memory!

Cheers,
Bill in Roswell, GA

On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 12:35:04 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Bill: Contratulations, and please post the statutory photos. 
>
> I used Ultegra/Open Pro/29 mm Parigi Roubaixs on my Ram and it was indeed 
> a fun ride.
>
> Regarding fenders and TCO: YMMV, and I am not recommending this, but FWIW: 
> I found that narrow aluminum fenders on a short f-c urban fixed gear 
> actually caused my feet to slip off the front wheel more easily than 
> without the fender; in other words, the additional overlap didn't make the 
> TCO effectively worse. 35mm smooth VOs over 29 mm tires on that '73 Grand 
> Record.
>
> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Bill in Roswell GA <roadsc...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Bobs and Rivs,
>>
>> A big thanks to Bill Hammond for the "long term loan" of his metallic 
>> pearl orange Rambouillet, size 54. I've been watching on here for years 
>> waiting on an orange Ram in my size. Wonder of wonders, Bill put his up for 
>> sale just down the road a couple of hours away. Bill still rides his Riv 
>> custom regularly!
>>
>> Bill bought the Ram from the original owner, Bill Davis perhaps? Anyways, 
>> it was appropriate to keep this Riv Ram in the Bill lineage (other Bills 
>> will approve, I'm sure). 
>>
>> Most of configuration is close to original with a few mods over the 
>> years: 8 speed with Suntour bar ends, Tektro/Cane Creek brake levers, 
>> Suntour Mountech crazy long front der., Brooks B-17, bar is Nitto 176 
>> (think Noodle was orig), Tektro 556 long reach brakes, 105 long rear der, 
>> Technomic stem. Ruffy Tuffy tires on Araya TX350/Deore Paralax hubs. Pedals 
>> are clones of Deore clipless (maybe MKS). Shiny Deore 5 bolt triple 
>> crankset. 
>>
>> First change was for fit. Needed the bars lower to be saddle height as 
>> the Technomic was way too tall when bottomed out. Had a Pearl on hand for a 
>> quick swap. Also added a Nitto M-13 rack for an Acorn Compact Rando bag 
>> which puts the top of the bag equal with the bars. May eventually add 
>> Shimano bar ends because the shape fits my hand a bit better, but that is a 
>> minor thing for a rainy winter day. 
>>
>> The only drivetrain change was to see how lighter wheels would feel. 
>> Swapped out the Araya/Deore for Open Pro/Ultegra running 33mm tires. 
>> Lighter wheels really livened up the frame and made it feel snappy. I'll 
>> get a wheelset with wider rims to accomodate 37mm-as-measured tires (Will 
>> at Riv said that was the max for sure). 
>>
>> Due to toe clip overlap, I won't be mounting fenders except for tours 
>> where rain can be expected. I was hoping not to have TCO, but all of my 
>> road bikes have it due to smallish 54 frames. Only my MTB with slack head 
>> tube doesn't have TCO. One of these days I'll get a custom frame without 
>> TCO!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bill in Roswell, GA
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