Bill, well said. I'm with you 100% on your assessment of the Sam. 650b 38s 
on mine.

Congratulations on all your recent riding accomplishments!
Richard 

On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 1:08:17 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Ian
>
> I think the Hillborne is the ideal Rivendell rando frame.
>
> I'm having a hard time thinking of anything that anybody would want or 
> expect out of a randonneuse that the Hillborne does not deliver.  Some 
> people like to do brevets on ultra light carbon road bikes, and perhaps 
> those people would gripe that a light Hillborne build is like 23 lbs 
> instead of 17, but that's definitely not me.  For a long distance road 
> bike, 622x38s are ideal.  Wider than that on 622 rims is cool for bumpabout 
> riding, or dirt, but not paved brevets.  Narrower doesn't get you anything, 
> either, so a bike with clearance for 622x38s plus fenders is perfect, for 
> me. 
>
> You want something reliable, comfortable, stable, and efficient.  The 
> Hillborne is all those things.  You want attachment points for necessary 
> rack and fenders.  Having something that is well made and beautiful to look 
> at is a bonus.  If we were to take up a collection and rounded up $3500, 
> and you all insisted that I buy a custom Rivendell identical to my 
> Hillborne but a pound and a half lighter, I'd happily do it, but $3500 to 
> save the weight of half a bottle of water is a dear price.  That pound and 
> a half would save me, what, a minute or two per 100 miles?  
>
> Bill Lindsay 
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 6:17:02 PM UTC-7, Ian A wrote:
>>
>> Congratulations on surpassing your distance goal. I am curious to know 
>> what it is about the Hillborne that makes it suitable for the SR series? Is 
>> it mostly a matter of it fitting most comfortably? I've heard so many good 
>> things about the Hillborne, but never really as a randonneur. 
>>
>> IanA (who also likes being 155lb, but is carrying an extra 20lb right 
>> now). 
>>
>

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