> On a single I'm willing to put up with some TCO, though I'm very glad
> that Mike Barry designed my Mariposa without it.

You cannot compare a custom with a stock design.  Unless the owner
demands some wacky wheel size/geometry, a custom builder should have a
lot more flexibility than a basic design carried through on several
sizes.

On Feb 3, 11:48 am, Kenneth Stagg <kenneth.st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:37 AM, james black <chocot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > ................... I
> > am mildly annoyed and feel vaguely insulted by the point of view I
> > sometimes encounter that TCO is an imaginary problem, or that I'm some
> > kind of dimwit because it bothers me. There are other cyclists
> > (customers) like me - bike designers should be attentive to this fact.
>
> I agree.  That's the part of this whole debate that bothers me.  It's
> not that those of us who care about it can't appreciate that some
> people don't, it's that some people try to tell us it's an imaginary
> problem and that we should just get over it.
>
> On a single I'm willing to put up with some TCO, though I'm very glad
> that Mike Barry designed my Mariposa without it.  On a tandem I would
> not consider putting up with it - it's too dangerous when the person
> controlling the bike doesn't have complete control of the pedals.
>
> -Ken

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