The order form for a custom Rivendell explains TCO, and asks if TCO is or is not acceptable.
http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/177/original_custom_frame_form.pdf On Feb 3, 12:51 pm, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: > > On a single I'm willing to put up with some TCO, though I'm very glad > > that Mike Barry designed my Mariposa without it. > > You cannot compare a custom with a stock design. Unless the owner > demands some wacky wheel size/geometry, a custom builder should have a > lot more flexibility than a basic design carried through on several > sizes. > > On Feb 3, 11:48 am, Kenneth Stagg <kenneth.st...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:37 AM, james black <chocot...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > ................... I > > > am mildly annoyed and feel vaguely insulted by the point of view I > > > sometimes encounter that TCO is an imaginary problem, or that I'm some > > > kind of dimwit because it bothers me. There are other cyclists > > > (customers) like me - bike designers should be attentive to this fact. > > > I agree. That's the part of this whole debate that bothers me. It's > > not that those of us who care about it can't appreciate that some > > people don't, it's that some people try to tell us it's an imaginary > > problem and that we should just get over it. > > > On a single I'm willing to put up with some TCO, though I'm very glad > > that Mike Barry designed my Mariposa without it. On a tandem I would > > not consider putting up with it - it's too dangerous when the person > > controlling the bike doesn't have complete control of the pedals. > > > -Ken- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.