On Saturday, December 16, 2017 at 9:55:59 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> That Philcentric looks interesting; I've never seen it before. But I 
> expect that the Q for any external bearing crank is wider than for what you 
> can find in a square tape system? I'd be happy to be corrected. I know that 
> the Q for the one mtb triple with external bearings was 173, and research 
> indicated similar widths for others of the type.
>
> I'm fortunate to not be bothered by wide Q, so I never measured with the 
Phil. A Hollowtech XT crank and bb have a 158 Q according to Shimano. 

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