Well, very interesting how some bikes feel faster than others without there
being a readily identifiable cause for this.

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 9:16 PM, lum gim fong <john11.2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> @ Patrick:
>
> overall weight? - not sure. I think same. I'd have to measure. I think I
> did once and they were the same, have to double check. I think it was Sam:
> 29 Ram: 27, Bleriot: 27
> Wheel weight? - sameish (Rode GB 650b on Bleriot and Ram, Synergies 650b
> on Ram and Sam).
> Tires? - sameish (Rode 650b 42's on all).
> Loads? - same
> Position and fit? - same (53 Bleriot, 54Ram, 52Sam). All 41 Noodles and
> 6cm stems. Bar heights/reach same. All Flyer saddles, set up in KOPS. Reach
> same.SH same.
>
> The Ram buildset was swapped over  from my Sam.
> I noted (if true from what the bike sheets say from RR and RBW) that the
> rear triangle and ST, IIRC,  is a smidgeon thinner walled on the Ram than
> the Sam.
>
> I asked Grant why the Ram would feel easier to get on down the road. He
> said he didn't know. Speculated maybe the shorter stays, and one other
> thing, but I forgot what it was.
>
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