Drew, Of course you’ll notice a difference. Next question? Grin.
The only way to answer your question is to ride an AHH and/or Sam, be that as a bike you buy or try. There is, however, a reason Surley is called a poor man’s Rivendell. There are geometry similarities between some of the Surly lineup and Rivendells, especially in the touring area, but differences in tubing, various specs, etc make for a big difference in ride feel. Will that difference be significant enough for you to be delighted you spend more to get a Sam or AHH? That is a querry only you can answer. May I suggest saying where you live and asking if anyone has a Riv in your PBH range near you you could try? With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.