Back when we were young and good looking (in the '90s), I entered some 
races with an old-fashioned bike, downtube shifters, etc. So did my friend, 
initially. He was married, so unlike me, he didn't waste time on social 
life, instead training seriously. He won a bunch of races with his downtube 
shifters on an old steel bike, at a time when everyone else was on 9/10 sp 
drivetrains and riding Al / CF. When he moved up a couple of categories, he 
got himself a new Al/CF bike with Ultegra 9sp from BikesDirect (~$1,000 all 
in). Didn't slow him down, that's for sure. (At that point I also started 
using a lighter bike and 9 and 10 sp drivetrains – Shimano and Campy, 
respectively – but didn't see too many improvements. But I did start dating 
a beautiful girl. Win some, lose some, I guess.) 

Anyhow, I now have just one bike set up with Shimano DA 9sp brifters (Deda 
Zero Uno tubing, which is slightly oversize, fits 700c x 28 mm tires). I 
have logged faster times on it than on my other bikes even on the dirt 
roads. However, I think it's mostly because it reminds me of my racing 
days, so I try to hammer a bit more on that bike. :-) 

OK, OK, one potentially useful bit of info in this reply:  Modern Campy 11 
sp brifters are reported to have a cable pull such that when they're 
coupled to Shimano 9sp derailleurs (or 10sp road), they'll successfully 
shift across a 9 sp Shimano cassette. 

- M

On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 3:24:44 AM UTC-5, Paul Y wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Looking for opinions and perspective s before scratching an itch!
>
> I've been riding my Roadeo with a dura ace 7400 double crank (38 and 48t) 
> with a Sora 8 speed 11-25 cassette, Shimano bar ends (9 speed but running 
> friction) and an older XT rapid rise rear derailer.
>
> The gearing is pretty good for me - it's enough to manage 10 deg climbs 
> and truck along around 35 kph.
>
> I've been riding the Roadeo like a typical club rider might, generally 
> without fenders and wearing lycra, though I haven't actually been riding 
> with a club! The plan is to ride a few audaxes this year though.
>
> I'm tempted to change to a new Shimano 105 5800 drivetrain (11 speed) and 
> brifters, which should go on easily as I already have a 105 11-speed hub.
>
> I love the robustness of the current setup but always looking for ways to 
> get more speed ( and I'm constantly training / trying to build strength).
>
> Has anyone else transitioned their bike similarly? As in, going from Riv 
> values to modern racy (meshed with steel and larger tires)? I still have a 
> Sam setup as a practical bicycle so I guess that leaves me freedom to 
> embody another cycling personality.
>
> Thanks for reading, and hopefully sharing your feelings on this.
>
> Paul
>
>

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