Or the fourth camp, which says "Stick with one setup for a while. You might 
like it."
I will say I'm surprised at how many folks say they outright dislike 
upright bars. Again, count me grateful that my body is just not that 
challenged by various positions on a bicycle. Within limits, especially 
with non-competitive riding, I find the software often successfully 
reprograms itself to the hardware. 

On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 11:53:19 AM UTC-5, Dave Small wrote:
>
> Thanks to everyone for the continued discussion.  My experimentation phase 
> has waned, but it hasn't disappeared.  I also know what I like and what 
> works for me---for now.  But my preferences have changed over the past 10 
> years, and are continuing to change.  I'm trying the anticipate my 
> continued evolution, with mixed results.  
>
> I find this intriguing about all the responses:  
>
> One camp says "I tried uprights and loved 'em right away; they're the 
> best!"  Probably not many fall into this camp, but I've read those 
> testimonials.
>
> Another says "I tried uprights and didn't like 'em at first, but then I 
> found the right combination of handlebars/bar height/stem extension/bar 
> angle/grips that worked for me, and now I love 'em!"
>
> And a third camp says "Don't like 'em.  I tried this and that and other 
> things---42 things in all---and I never found something that feels good."
>
> It may be that the only thing separating the third camp from the second 
> camp is the 43rd attempt, and the question becomes how motivated is that 
> Third Camper to continue experimenting in the hope of becoming a Second 
> Camper?  That person never knows that the next combination of factors won't 
> work, he or she finally just gives up.  
>
> When I think about why I care, I realize that I'm just curious---have been 
> for a long time, and I've often acted on that curiosity by trying new 
> things.  Lord knows I don't need to; I have more bikes that I can justify 
> even to myself, much less my wife, and I love enough of them enough on 
> every level that I don't need to follow any more strings.  I say I want 
> to go the N-1 route, but then I continue to buy bikes I don't need---'cause 
> I think they'll be great (and usually they are)---and I struggle to find 
> ways to "save" bikes that don't seem to work well for me---such as the 
> Cheviot---when I should be saying "oh well, nice try and I learned 
> something."  
>
> So much for my inner workings.  Back to the Cheviot:  I took it for a 
> short ride last night and simulated body positions that I'd expect from a 
> longer stem and also from higher bars.  I'm gonna try those changes because 
> they're easy to implement, and see if that helps.  I don't know why I want 
> to like the Cheviot but I do, and I'll try a few more things but will stop 
> well before #42.  I think.  
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 11:19:08 AM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote:
>>
>> My experimentation phase is waning. I know what I like and what works for 
>> me. 
>>
>

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