On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 5:19:36 PM UTC-7, Dave Grossman wrote:
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> ... The fact that they spec bikes with parts that could have been found 30 
> years ago is what makes them endearing.  ....
>
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^ This is true.  However, because I'm the kind of guy who will only buy a 
bike that I believe I could ride for the NEXT 30 years if I so desired, I 
think disc brakes are starting to make more sense than not.   It is very 
difficult to find suitably wide rim brake rims even now, with Velocity 
Cliffhangers and possibly Kris Holm being the only ones I can even think 
of.   

Discs have evolved to the point where there is a set of standards that will 
likely be available for many, many years to come:  6-bolt rotor hub 
mounting & 51mm I.S. caliper mounting.  There were other standards that 
didn't stick, and the desperate fashion-pedaling side of the bike industry 
will of course try to invent new standards, but I'm betting they will 
continue to be marginalized by pushback from fed up consumers.  

Paul components has a habit of discontinuing products before they've 
outlived their usefulness, but the fact that they actually even make 
boutique, american-made, blingy, disc calipers right now eliminates the 
"too ugly / too modern-looking argument," and further speaks to the 
maturity of the standards.

Once again, I think the most legitimate reasons for considering discs are 
the doors they open in terms of tire width and rim availability but, after 
resisting the argument for a long time, even I now believe that those are 
reason enough for Riv to consider.  It's not like they're Amish or 
something, where there was an arbitrary, historical point in technological 
advancement beyond which they are not allowed to venture.  Otherwise, 
they'd be selling only loose-bearing bottom brackets instead of cartridges 
or, better yet, cottered cranks instead of square taper.

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