Even with puny 35mm Schwalbe Supremes and SKS 45mm fenders, I can get toe strike on my 58cm Atlantis if I try hard enough on start-up. This is because sometimes my (size 12) foot placement on Grip Kings is accidentally too far forward initially on start-up.
But its not a major issue for me. Like cyclofiend is saying, with a little practice its easily avoidable. I also had 29 x 2.1 Nanoraptors on the Atlantis for a time, and definitely had to be more conscious of it while riding the slow twisty semi-technical stuff. But it was still fun and not a show-stopper. Here's a pic of it with the Nanoraptors on: http://www.flickr.com/photos/southgatephotos/4033477230 Cutting it close, but probably not an issue if i used cleats. On Feb 1, 1:14 pm, CycloFiend <cyclofi...@earthlink.net> wrote: > on 2/1/10 6:26 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J at thomas.alling...@skadden.com > wrote: > > Am I right (or, in the alternative, completely misguided) in thinking that > TCO should not be a problem if you're not clipped in? (I suppose maybe > that's why the problem is called "toe clip overlap.") > > Just for reference sake, it's important to define the following: > > "Clipped In" means using some sort of cleated interface to secure your shoes > and pedals - SPD, TIME, LOOK, etc... > > "Clipless" are the type of pedals that you clip into as above. It is an > honorable semantic effort to shift this phrase to "Clip in". Even the > snowboarders use the phrase "Click-in binding"... > > "Toe Clips" are the cages that extend off the front of the pedal. Once upon > a time, we nailed cleats to the bottom of our cycling shoes, so that the > rear lip of the pedal cage secured the shoe. Then we tightened down the toe > straps. Then we were "clipped in". We were young and foolish. > > Slipping a pair of cycling or street shoes into a Toe Clip is "using toe > clips" > > All-righty then... > > One of the quickest ways to get into trouble is to get your foot _inside_ of > the front wheel when stopped or at low speeds. Really, that's about the > only time it can happen, because you really shouldn't be turning the bars > that much unless you are coming down Repack on a Klunker in about 1978 or > thereabouts. > > The best way to compound the problem is to be riding a fixed gear, because, > obviously, you can't backpedal and the momentum of the bicycle is driving > your foot. > > The first time I did this (on my Dawes commuter, which has toe clips and > fenders), I very luckily dropped my heel, which pointed my toe up, creating > plenty of room for the wheel to swing back to center. Then, I seriously > panicked and froze up. Luckily, the freezing took place after the fact, and > as such did not end catastrophically. > > I'm a great believer in practicing for disaster, and have since played with > this condition a bit to create some muscle memory for the future. > > Depending upon the tension in your legs, the position of your foot, you can > definitely compound the problem if your reaction is to push down harder. > It's really a weird feeling when it happens, and your instinctive reaction > may not be correct. > > It's not a bad idea to play with the clearances, so you know beforehand what > they are. Sitting stationary on the bike (with a spotter - some of the > hardest falls I've had were at 0 mph...) in a doorframe or next to some > support, set your foot forward and move the bars to create the problem. > > - Jim > > -- > Jim Edgar > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > "One Cog - Zero Excuses" L/S T-shirt - Now > availablehttp://www.cyclofiend.com/stuff > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > Singlespeed - Working Bikes > > Send In Your Photos! - Here's how:http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.