Eric, the catalog says it's a 1" rise/drop, so, I'll believe them on that. 

Diego, laying my old Boscos as close to on top over the clamp as I can 
manage, I'd say the Boscos come back about an inch more. Measuring, the 
Billies are 8.5" straight before they bend as advertised. The Boscos are 
closer to 7.5" before the bend, but then go closer to 9" before the clamp. 
So, Boscos more literal back reach, Billies more grip area?

On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 at 7:38:41 PM UTC-4, Eric Daume wrote:
>
> What's the actual rise/drop on the Billie? The site only says it's less 
> than the Albatross.
>
> Eric
>
> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Diego J. Garza <diego...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> For those of you who have tried this bar, would you say it's reach back 
>> is a little longer than Boscos? 
>>
>> Inquiring minds would like to know,
>>
>> Diego
>> pre-june gloom, los angeles, ca 
>>
>> On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 9:32:44 PM UTC-7, Brett Callahan wrote:
>>>
>>> Ive received mine and will add my first impressions. I've only mounted 
>>> and ridden around the block, so hardly a detailed review. 
>>>
>>> First, I'll need a longer stem.  These are way longer than the 
>>> albatross. A good trade considering there seems to be a full hand's worth 
>>> of real estate in front of the levers now.    
>>>
>>> I like the flare.  It's noticeable coming from the albatross, but these 
>>> are still nice and swept back.  I mounted mine upside down for a slight 
>>> drop.   They'll go rightside up eventually, but this was a fun experiment.  
>>>
>>> FLEX. There's a noticeable amount of flex to these that I never 
>>> experienced with albatross bars.  It's similar to what you get with a wide 
>>> drop bar.  Could be good, could be bad, but for now it's just a little 
>>> surprising.  
>>>
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