On 07/01/2018 11:21 PM, Justin, Oakland wrote:

I personally have no use to be united with someone who agrees with the policy 
of committing human rights violations.


+1


There are two main areas of disagreement here: those who disagree with overtly political content on a cycling mailing list and so object to this thread, and those who support the policy in question and object to its being objected to here.  To those in the former camp, I say this: it's not a cycling list per se, it's a list about Rivendell and historically Grant's writing about a subject /even though it's not cycling per se/ has made it within the scope of the list.  Subjects such as Paleo diet and hatchets leave no doubt whatever about this in my mind.  So if you don't like the topic being discussed here, blame Grant or get over it and find a more "pure" list.

As for the other group, those who support policies of committing human rights violations and dislike seeing them criticized here, I say this: piss off.

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Steve Palincsar
Alexandria, Virginia
USA

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