Paul, I think you're wise to borrow one first. These front seats tend to 
work best with large frames/top tubes. If you are about my size (PBH ~79), 
you may decide to wait for the Rosco Bebe or to get that trailer a little 
sooner. 

I can only speak to the iBert, but after installing one on my Trek 950, 
which I think has a top tube around 57-58cm, there was hardly any room left 
between the nose of the saddle and the backside of the iBert. (It wasn't a 
"tight squeeze" it was a "there's no way I could ever fit in there" kind of 
space, and I'm a trim 155 lbs.) I'd have needed to lower my saddle way down 
so that I could safely straddle the bike and plop my dude in the seat and 
buckle him in. And then I'd be riding around with knees splayed and legs 
never fully extended. This the problem that the Rosco Bebe would address by 
having a "legendarily long top tube" and swept back bars.

Pete
Arlington, VA

On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 11:19:55 AM UTC-4, Paul Clifton wrote:
>
> I know this topic comes up frequently. I've learned a lot from reading 
> previous threads, but with the impending BOSCO BEBE and an eight month old 
> who's anxious to get on a bike, I've got some decisions to make, and I'd 
> love some input.
>
> I'm pretty set on a front seat. It just seems like more fun. I'd love to 
> test a few seats out (front and back) before I buy anything, but I'm not 
> sure I have that option. Does anyone in the Atlanta area have a baby seat 
> or two I can test fit/test ride on a few different bikes? I'd really like 
> to test one of the Yepp models, but any seat I could try out would be 
> really helpful.
>
> My big question is, given my stable and the BOSCO BEBE, should I buy the 
> best seat for one of my current bikes, even if it's not the one I want, or 
> should I buy the seat I think I want, Yepp, mount it on a less than ideal 
> bike. Then shuffle the stable and the checkbook around till I get a bike 
> that works with the seat.
>
> I know the normal people answer is buy a seat for your current bike and 
> just ride, but I'm hoping to take lots of great rides over the next 2-3 
> years, so I can justify a dedicated bike/baby seat combo. I'm just not sure 
> what I want that to look like yet.
>
> Here's the bikes I've got that will work with a seat. Has anyone used a 
> front seat on any similar bikes? How'd it work out?
>
> 1. MTBUBBE - appears that the long head tube makes front seats less than 
> ideal. I'm not sure about the handling with an extra 20 lbs towards the 
> front.
>
> 2. 1984 Trek 720 - The frame is relatively light, but it rides well with a 
> load. The clamp spot for a front seat seems more reasonable, but it might 
> still be tight and the top tube is completely horizontal. I could try it 
> with riser bars instead of drops.
>
> 3. 1985 or so Peugeot MTB (Crazy Horse) - It's an 80s MTB. Super fun to 
> ride. No idea how the seat would fit and how it would handle. Any thoughts?
>
> 4. 90s Cannondale MTB - Pretty similar to the Peugeot, but nicer, newer 
> parts and a threadless stem.
>
> I'm not really interested in trailers right now, even though it's likely 
> that I'll use one eventually.
>
> Maybe a rear seat is the way to go?
> Does anyone have any tips on how to determine whether a front seat will 
> work well on a particular bike?
>
> My guess is that in the end this is all pretty child-dependent, and I 
> shouldn't sink to much time and money into this until I know that my child 
> like to ride bikes. So maybe I just need to experiment a little bit. How 
> would y'all solve this "problem".
>
> Paul in ATL
>
> P.S. Anyone selling a used child seat in good condition? I'm your market. 
> DM me.
>

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